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Bouncer
10-23-2019 20:23:59
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I recently bought a 2910 that was in overall pretty good shape, but I did have a few small things that I wanted to address just to make it the way I wanted it. I’ve got some hydraulic leaks fixed and a few other odds and ends taken care of. I got my new gauge cluster today that is the same as they sell on this site, but it came with no instructions and apparently there are no instructions sent with these no matter where you order them. The terminals are laid out completely differently and are not marked. Does anyone have experience with where to put what wires from the old cluster to the new one? Also in the second picture you can see how I found the wiring for the fuel sending unit to the gauge. The whole cowl area was packed full of leaves and debris, something had been living a comfortable life in there. Anyways one of the wires has been chewed through and looks like it has been grounded out at one point, so I obviously will have to fix that. However can someone shed some light on how those wires are supposed to be? Thanks  
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Sean in PA
10-26-2019 05:25:48
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Bouncer, 10-23-2019 20:23:59
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Power from the key switch should go to the "B" terminal. The terminals with no wire on the back of each gauge should go to the respective sender (fuel or temp).
It looks like all of the original bulbs are two-wire so they should just get inserted into their respective holes.
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Destroked 450
10-25-2019 16:02:36
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Bouncer, 10-23-2019 20:23:59
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Sorry! D8NN10849SB
But after looking it up again I realize it not what you need, it's has a speed o meter instead of a tach.
Your old cluster was used till 85, then they changed to cluster #83954555 with is the same as used on the later 3930/4630.
I actually like the gauges in that cluster better and have converted a couple of my tractors to the newer cluster.
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Bouncer
10-25-2019 16:18:54
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Destroked 450, 10-25-2019 16:02:36
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Are those newer ones plug and play? I don't mind having to modify wiring, I have done electromechanical work for many years. I just hate trying to make something work when I have no wiring diagram on the new parts to know what goes where.
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Destroked 450
10-25-2019 07:51:30
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Bouncer, 10-23-2019 20:23:59
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After a bit od search there appears to be a 3rd cluster that your tractor uses.
Google D8NN10849SP.
Looks look your old gauge.
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bouncer
10-25-2019 08:14:28
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Destroked 450, 10-25-2019 07:51:30
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I appreciate all your help, but I get zero Google results with that number of D8NN10849SP. When I type it in Amazon or eBay I got the references to the one I already have. So this is definitely the case of one new aftermarket part does not cross over and replace 5-8 old part numbers like they say. I have packaged up the other cluster and it is going back today.
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bouncer
10-24-2019 14:07:47
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Bouncer, 10-23-2019 20:23:59
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Here is the front of the gauge. Yes it is the correct part number and yes it is the same one they sell on this site as well. I guess I will just put my old one back in and not have a tach, which is moderately inconvenient for pto work. 
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Destroked 450
10-24-2019 07:22:14
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Bouncer, 10-23-2019 20:23:59
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Post a photo of the other side of the clusters, also when was that 2910 made?
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bouncer
10-24-2019 14:10:11
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Destroked 450, 10-24-2019 07:22:14
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Best I can tell it is an ‘84 model.
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sotxbill
10-24-2019 07:11:54
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Bouncer, 10-23-2019 20:23:59
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If the tach goes the correct way... then it MIGHT be the correct cluster but the supplier put a dummy voltage stabilizer on it...
AND you old cluster had to run a ground to each gauge to make it work were your new cluster has a single ground point...
BUT... in my experience, the heat gauge will not work correctly. It will read hot...
also the cluster is deeper and may hit the gas tank seem on some models and not let the cluster sit flat on the dash cowling..
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sotxbill
10-24-2019 07:10:37
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Bouncer, 10-23-2019 20:23:59
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If the tach goes the correct way... then it MIGHT be the correct cluster but the supplier put a dummy voltage stabilizer on it...
AND you old cluster had to run a ground to each gauge to make it work were your new cluster has a single ground point...
BUT... in my experience, the heat gauge will not work correctly. It will read hot...
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Destroked 450
10-23-2019 22:16:39
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Bouncer, 10-23-2019 20:23:59
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Looks like you have the wrong cluster.
Early 2910's used a cluster like older models, part # E5NN10849BA on this site
Later 2910's used a cluster like seen on the new --30 series, part # 83954555 on this site
What's wrong with the old cluster, if the lens is glazed over you can purchase a new replacement lens.
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bouncer
10-24-2019 00:02:08
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to Destroked 450, 10-23-2019 22:16:39
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It is in fact the proper cluster and it is the first one you listed. As for why I am replacing it, I’m not sure what difference it makes. However to answer your question, it is because the tach is broken.
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Bern
10-24-2019 05:28:34
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Re: 2910 Gauge Cluster Help in reply to bouncer, 10-24-2019 00:02:08
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That appears to be the wrong cluster to me. That cluster uses bi-metal gauges like an old 3000 did, rather than magnetic gauges like your original one has. I can see this because it uses a voltage stabilizer on it, the device that looks like a circuit breaker with the B and I terminal on it. If you attempt to use this dash, your gauges will not be accurate, not even close.
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