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correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl?

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bob kuczynski

10-14-2019 13:59:51




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i had a new thermostat put in after realizing i never had one at all.

tractor runs at 200-230 during peak usage. good? bad? no signs of over boiling. all seems secure.

its just my gas tank is still making my gas bubble. seems pretty hot to me up on top.

ideas?




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bob kuczynski

10-26-2019 08:52:31




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
anyone else?



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Keith Williams

10-28-2019 13:08:52




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-26-2019 08:52:31  
Bob,
You could try enriching the fuel mixture.
Ethanol gas (E10) will make the engine run a little leaner.

Make sure you have COMPLETELY cleaned the radiator fins. I like to use compressed air for this.

I would not put a foam panel under the tank. The gas is boiling because it is hotter than ~170 degrees. The foam products (I believe) will melt and possibly burn at those temps.

HTH
Keith

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RayJohnson

10-25-2019 17:04:11




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
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Wow Keith, I would have never thought.



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bob kuczynski

10-25-2019 15:32:02




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
i wonder if putting an insulation board over the heat shield will help? you know the kind, it sorta looks like styrofoam with aluminium film over it.

hmmm?



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RayJohnson

10-18-2019 12:34:51




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
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It's hard for me to believe the heat from the motor is boiling the gas in your tank... (if that's what you're suggesting)



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Keith Williams

10-21-2019 12:41:51




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to RayJohnson, 10-18-2019 12:34:51  
Ray,
Boiling the gas is known to happen in these.
I can remember it happening from the time we first got our 4000 in April of 64.
Plowing for winter wheat in August after we cut the oats was when I remember it the most back then.
I have it happen now when I rotary cut with a 6 foot Woods mower.
I have even seen the bubbles coming down the fuel line into the sediment bowl.
BTW, the motor never stops because of this.
Keith

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bob kuczynski

10-18-2019 07:25:19




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
any addictive you suggest to mix in ethanol gas to make it run cooler?



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bob kuczynski

10-18-2019 07:24:48




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  



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bob kuczynski

10-16-2019 07:09:05




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
there is a shield over the muffler exhuast pipe. its the tank itself exposed to the valve cover area that im suspect of.



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bob kuczynski

10-16-2019 07:03:37




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
timing is perfect.

87 oct ethenol is all i got in this area. im using gas additive STABIL since tractor sits for some time off season.



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bob kuczynski

10-14-2019 19:12:29




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
ok, so next would be a fix for gas bubbling in the tank. i dont see a heat shield under the tank. is it missing?



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Dean

10-16-2019 05:32:36




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 19:12:29  
Yes. There should be a heat shield between the muffler and fuel tank. You do need it.

Verify correct ignition timing and proper operation of the mechanical advance mechanism.

Avoid gasoline with ethanol if at all possible.

Dean



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JMOR

10-14-2019 18:38:55




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeexactly why I asked the question.



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bob kuczynski

10-14-2019 16:51:55




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
aha!

jut went out and looked at the gauge cold. its stuck on 190.



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Dean

10-14-2019 16:31:55




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
First step is to verify that the temperature gauge is accurate.

Dean



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bob kuczynski

10-14-2019 16:10:43




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
its a 173.

same temp with or without.



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Bern

10-14-2019 15:09:20




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
200 wouldn't bother me, but 230 sure would.



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Larry NCKS

10-14-2019 14:51:07




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
Too hot! Maybe a timing issue. Maybe a cooling system issue of some kind.



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JMOR

10-14-2019 14:06:28




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 Re: correct operating temp for a 4000 gas 4cyl? in reply to bob kuczynski, 10-14-2019 13:59:51  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seewhat degree is thermostat? what temp was it running before thermostat installed?



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