I'm selling my Ford 4000 SU and need price advice...

Hey experts!

I've been on the fence about this but I've decided I could use a UTV/Side-by-Side more right now than my Ford 4000 SU (early 1970's I think) tractor. She's done the work I've needed her to do and I think I can get along without her now.

I made the decision mid-summer and at that point I brought it to my tractor mechanic and basically gave him free-reign to check/fix/replace anything that he sees as a problem. So he fixed a couple leaks. He replaced the gauges. He put in a new alternator. Greased everything up and got everything he could see looking and working well. 2-3 months later this thing is as close to perfect as I could get it

So my question is...what would be a good selling price?

I'm getting ready to post it different places but I don't want to go too high or too low.

I appreciate your expert advice!

Here is a pic of the new gauges.

not being there in person to see how it runs......


Good starting tractor in good shape with a loader like that would bring $7500 down here. Have sold several 3000's w loaders at that price and 4000's w loaders. All of them were in good mechanical shape and cosmetic shape.


In dry weather they take much longer to sell, in normal rainy seasons where there is lots of grass and weeds to cut, tractors sell very fast. Winter, not so much.

A 4000 su can be considered a bonus due it being a 3000 with extra horse power... which it is...

Not what you want to hear, but I personally would never buy a loader tractor with that front end and
steering on it. Unless I was only moving sawdust around all day, it would not stand up under heavy loader
use.

what do you mean? The front axels aren't sufficient?

Very nice looking 4000 SU.

I would have been very interested a few years ago as I wanted one for a mowing tractor but could not find a decent one.

Can't help much with selling price as I've not kept up with such and prices vary significantly by region.

Dean

It has a 3000 front end. I to
would not want a loader on it.
But would like a 4000SU. They
are good tractors.

Your front axle is a very light duty design that was never really designed from the start with front end
loaders in mind. As I said in my prior post, you'll be fine carrying light materials, but heavy stuff will
bring trouble down the road. If I were in the market for a loader tractor, I'd skip right past your ad unless you were pretty much giving it away.

Bern's talking about the pivot pin design on the general purpose front end. Pivot pin wear is accelerated with a loader and more so if the operator is abusive with heavy work. Light duty set up, and with these, need to just monitor for wear and make the repair to them timely. They will go a long way before things a sloppy and worse, trust me, you ought to see the front end under my old 850, same design. I always thought based on our 3600 with the same front axle, which had a loader most of its life, that the pivot pin was either slightly different or larger. Our 3600 did a lot of work over the years and towards the end the pivot pin was still within tolerance, not a heck of a lot of wear. Heavy work will test out the spindles, there are some types that are thicker for loader applications, at least in hundred series there is.

Preferably, a heavier industrial front axle is best suited for loader work, but a tractor such as yours would not bother me the least as long as that front axle pivot pin was within tolerance and the spindles did not have stress cracks.

Pivot pin wear is not the only concern. Bent radius rods, bent steering cylinders, loose ball joints, the list goes on.

General location is also a big factor in pricing.
Your tractor looks to be in great shape with good tires. Tires are
also a huge consideration in pricing, so I would point those out.
Kelley brand loader. I don't think they are made anymore, but I
have one on one of my Fords and it has worked flawlessly for years.
The only parts I have needed for the loader were hoses/fittings,
the drive shaft for the pump that wore out, etc. Normal wear parts.
All were common, off the shelf items that were easily obtainable.

Yes, seems to take some doing eventually with lots of hard hours, but the whole thing by that point needs an overhaul.

4000SU's are great tractors, I have one, plenty of power for their size and much better brakes than 2-3000 drum brakes.
The sweep back axle design isn't the best setup for a front end loader but lots of tractors with that style axle out there with loaders being used daily.
Around here a SU will sell for around $1000 less than a 4000 all purpose with the heavier front axle, I have mine insured for $4500 but probably wouldn't sell it for that price, no loader on mine but it did have before I got it, thus the reinforced radius arms,"Angle iron welded to the bottom of the radius rods to keep them from bending."
Although some prefer the SOS trans, most times it devalues the tractor a fair amount, around here they have a bad rep and are hard to sell.
Cousin recently purchased a early 4600SU with loader, gave $6900, but as I said with your tractor having a SOS trans I can't put a fair dollar value on it.

One think I will say is if I were looking at it I'd ask how many hours were on the old tach and if the alternator was a recent conversion.
If the conversion wasn't recent I'd ask how long it was run without a working tach.
I can tell it doesn't have a working tach, no tach drive on the back of the alternator and the wrong tach for one driven by the oil pump drive.
Other wise it's a nice looking tractor and loader.

Great looking tractor.
I'm going to just pick some numbers
here.
If it runs as good as it looks $7000.
If it was an ag/all purpose about the
same price.
If it is a Select O Speed $4500-$5000