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Chinese Zenith for 3000

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Thelumberwagon

09-25-2019 09:15:04




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Has anyone had any experience with a Chinese Zenith carb for the Ford 3000? When I search for carbs, they range from around $130.00 for a Chinese to $400.00 for non Chinese?

Is there enough of a difference to justify the extra expense of the non Chinese carb?
I haven't had a chance to fire the tractor up since I've gotten it but I've read enough to determine a carb upgrade will make my life easier when I finally do. I don't want to rebuild the old Holley only to find out that I should have sprung for the Zenith. Not to mention that I've seen several comments that the Holley is finicky. This tractor will be parked most of its life and only used a few times a year for mowing. I want the best odds of it firing up after long periods of sitting.

Thanks

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3000OH

09-26-2019 05:28:50




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 Re: Chinese Zenith for 3000 in reply to Thelumberwagon, 09-25-2019 09:15:04  
We bought the admittedly spendy replacement about ten years ago. Easy bolt-on, worked great from the get-go, havenít touched it since. That and the electronic ignition really brought our Ď65 back to a point of being enjoyable to own & use. (btw, whether to replace or repair Holleys and whether e-ignition is worthwhile have been contentious points here on this board).

To your question: I have no direct experience with the chinese made Zenith knock-offs. But i have had recent experience with a replacement weed whacker carb from there. Like the Zenith knockoff, it was cheap and advertised as a direct replacement. The mounting bolt holes were the only thing that matched. The throttle linkage wasnít oriented correctly and didnít fit. The fuel lines were different sizes. Luckily we have the tools and enough spare pieces around that i was able to cobble it together, but it was a thrash. Once together, it started & ran very well, and has continued to do so. Hope this helps.

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Sean in PA

09-26-2019 04:30:06




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 Re: Chinese Zenith for 3000 in reply to Thelumberwagon, 09-25-2019 09:15:04  
On the original Holley carbs, they changed the design of the bell crank and linkage on 4/1/68, so a 1965 tractor would have the earlier style linkage and bell crank, so you may need to transfer the old bell crank over to the new carb.



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Ultradog MN

09-26-2019 05:49:51




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 Re: Chinese Zenith for 3000 in reply to Sean in PA, 09-26-2019 04:30:06  
Sean,
The bell crank and rod to throttle handle did change when they went from a two arm to one arm governor. But the throttle rocker on the carb is identical from 1965-83 and probably beyond.



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Thelumberwagon

09-25-2019 19:41:21




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 Re: Chinese Zenith for 3000 in reply to Thelumberwagon, 09-25-2019 09:15:04  
My generic search for a Zenith for a Ford 3000 yields the same carb on all searches. At least I think it does. If I do need to proceed that route, how do I determine which carb I need? I just figured a Ford 3000 was a Ford 3000.

I suspect mine is an early one since its only a 4 speed. I think it's a 1965 based on the engine numbers.

I would prefer not to pay $365 for a carb if it's the same as the $135 carb just a different vendor.

My plan is to resurrect this beast and get it reliable and then haul it 200 miles to the farm and leave it.

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pomester

09-25-2019 19:05:45




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 Re: Chinese Zenith for 3000 in reply to Thelumberwagon, 09-25-2019 09:15:04  
No experience with the Chinese knock-offs. I returned a very tired 4500 to service a few years ago and invested $365 in a Zenith and do not regret it. It starts easily and runs well - I just added a bit of hose to the crankcase breather to get the blow-by to the rear of the machine...

When shopping I did find that there are several models of Zeniths and I found a shop (the identity of which I would have to go to the files to find) that supplied the correct version for my engine. If you are going to spend the money, make sure you get the right carburetor.

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Thelumberwagon

09-25-2019 17:23:43




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 Re: Chinese Zenith for 3000 in reply to Thelumberwagon, 09-25-2019 09:15:04  
Thanks

Unfortunately a diesel swap isn't an option. I'm not too far from doing my first test start but I know that I'll be faced with some carburetor issues and am trying to get ahead of them by researching my options.



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Ultradog MN

09-25-2019 09:49:02




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 Re: Chinese Zenith for 3000 in reply to Thelumberwagon, 09-25-2019 09:15:04  
Congrats on buying that tractor.
I think you did Good on the price.
I have no experience with the China made so can't help there. I can say the $400 ones are a direct bolt-in swap and will make your tractor run with no dinking around.
If you really want a tractor that will start and run after laying idle for months or even years drop a diesel in it.
Diesels stink and they're noisy but they Always run.

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