Auction info

Looking at what appears to be an older Ford 4000 at an auction today. Numbers dont seem to add up to me (could just be me). Any info before I bid would be much appreciated. Thanks

41305
4 = 172 engine which would make it a 4000 series
1 = built after 1963
30 = utility model with non adjustable front axle (light industrial)
5 = ? 4030(5) would be a SOS trans with single speed pto
4130(5) isn't listed in my chart
Tell us what you find so we can add it to our listing.

Serial number is for a 63 model.

Thank you. Info is perfect. It is an SOS transmission. I'll post when the thing sells and how much.

Sold for $4750. A little higher than I was willing to go. I wasnt sold on the SOS tranny. Just dont know enough about them yet to wanna tackle that beast if something were to go wrong. It had a loader and a custom built set of forks for it also. Not a bad unit overall, but I saw some small wiring issues that would have to be worked out. Thanks for the info Destroked! I'll keep looking

Brought a good bit more than I would've paid even with the loader.
I've got a 62 model 881 with SOS trans but I picked it up at a good price.
If your wanting one of the older tractors like that find one with the 5 spd trans and possibly with live pto.

I've had tractors with SOS trans before and in certain apps they perform really well but overall I think the 5 spd was the best trans ever put on those tractors.

(quoted from post at 08:55:04 09/08/19)


I've had tractors with SOS trans before and in certain apps they perform really well but overall I think the 5 spd was the best trans ever put on those tractors.

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I'm going to beg to differ on that one! :lol: IMHO the SOS (by the time they went to the DDC) was far superior to the 5 speed, no matter how you looked at it.

Dad bought a used 850 with 5 spd and trans pto in 62 before I turned 7, my brother sold it in 80 four years after dad passed so I grew up on that tractor and may be a little partial to the 5 spd.

My 3 cylinder 4000 was a SOS when I got it, for plowing, discing, mowing, square baling, ect it was a good trans to have with multiple on the go gear selections.
My first round baler had electric tie and no bale kicker, this required backing the baler up a few feet to dump the bale each time and worked best if done while the twine was wrapping. To get the proper wraps of twine the engine has to stay at pto speed.
Taking off or backing up a SOS tractor at high rpm is not recommended nor does it work well, the tractor was always jerking and spinning no matter how easy I was on the inching pedal.
My take was SOS trans and round balers don't like each other.
I never could get the hang of backing up or pulling forward a inch to two when hooking up equipment, the tractor always moved 3-4 inches min, probably just me but it was aggravating hooking to implements.
The pto not having a brake was a safety concern for me especially with my 4 basket fold up tedder where the tines were spinning any time the engine was running.

Don't get me wrong I like the SOS trans, it just wasn't the proper fit for the type of equipment I use.
On my 4000 the 3rd time the SOS quit working I swapped it out for a 8x2 manual with ind pto, that was 19 years ago and I haven't regretted it yet.

All that said my 881 is original and I have no plans to replace the SOS trans with a 5 spd, recently found a C3NN DDC trans I may purchase just in case the ORC trans fails.

J.Mc,
Here are some simple Facts on the
different transmissions that were used
in that model tractor:


1) If you look at the I&T FO-20 manual,
the procedures to maintain, adjust and
overhaul the 4 speed - including the
single clutch and pto - is just over
Five pages long.

2) For the 5 speed with live pto -
including the double clutch and pto - it
is just over Seven pages long.

3) The procedures to maintain, adjust
and overhaul a Select O Speed, including
the pto is Thirty Five pages long.

Thanks UD.
That's part of the reason why I backed away from it. From what I've read on previous posts, when it works it works well but when it doesnt... good luck. I'm just getting to the point where I can start to maintain what I have without asking 4000 questions. Dont wanna bite off more than I can chew... yet.

My current "kids". Thanks to everyone on here, it's the first time they have all ran at the same time since I've had them!

Nice group of Fords
This is the only one I have of the older models



Everything else I have is the 65 and newer models.

Thanks Ultradog for the info. That speaks volumes for my five speed.

Keep posting.