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mikewood869

06-13-2019 18:51:08




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Ended up buying another tractor. The plan is to move all the things from a 4500 backhoe to this tractor. From what I was able to get from the book?, the tractor is a 3 cylinder 4000, utility, gas with ind pto 540 and 8 spd transmission. All I know that the tractor is a later 1969 3 cylinder, gas engine with ind pto and 8 spd.




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mikewood869

06-15-2019 19:46:25




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
Never mind I answer my own question.



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mikewood869

06-15-2019 18:55:50




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
After looking for the rear end full indicator plug, I can t seem to find it. I have already found and in unstuck the transmission plug. I don t see it by the right foot board. Anyone know where it would be?



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mikewood869

06-14-2019 08:18:02




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
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Only if he had one for a ford 4500 and it s only a 24 hour trip :D



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Destroked 450

06-14-2019 07:28:22




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
Yes!

Swapping the 4500's bolster, hard nose and steering onto the 4400's chassis will make it a 4500 with pto, 3 point lift and manual trans.

There's a guy in Ohio that needs a good 4400 bolster and steering cylinder but Ma. is a bit far to travel .



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mikewood869

06-14-2019 07:21:03




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
The axle behind the fuel tank is going on to the 4400. I ll take a better picture when I get home.



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mikewood869

06-14-2019 07:16:31




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
We thought that you could pull everything off the front end of the 4400 and swap over the 4500 front (& steering sector) end to the 4400 to turn the 4400 into a 4500 with pto and 3pt.



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Destroked 450

06-14-2019 07:06:55




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
Are you wanting to do away with the torque convertor trans or what?

The bolsters are different between the 4400 and 4500, bolster for the 4400 is similar if not the same as one for a 5000.

Steering cylinder is mounted differently and not the same cylinder, the 4500's forward mounded cylinder allows room for the hyd pumps supply pipe to route thru the back of the bolster to the control valve, 4400 bolster doesn't allow that.
4500's bolster has tabs cast in to mount the hyd pump and also as tabs cast in the bolster to mount the hard nose.

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Ultradog MN

06-14-2019 16:01:14




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to Destroked 450, 06-14-2019 07:06:55  
I thought they were the same.
Learn something new here every day.
Thanks.



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mikewood869

06-14-2019 05:37:03




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That's the plan. It's going to suck because of how heavy the nose with axle is. Also I forgot to say that the power steering doesn't work, but it will need fluid.



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mikewood869

06-14-2019 05:33:46




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
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We have a Ford 4500 (has a 4x4 torque converter transmission) with the loader setup and backhoe setup, I was thinking of swapping the nose and axle on this 4400 and putting the nose and axle onto this 4400. I know at the very lease I'm going to have to swap over; the steering sector, power steering pump (the 4400 has the one that has the reservoir built in), oil pan (hoping not to find any metal in the pan), the fuel tank (is there any cleaner to get diesel out without killing tank) and the hood. I don't think I'm missing anything?. But first I want to get the 4400 going again. So far what I found the 3 pt doesn't go up or down (down at the moment, the tractor needs to be rewired (I have the wiring harness from the Ford 3000). The start needs to touched off and a wire going from the coil to the battery every time you want to start the tractor. The pto doesn't want to stop (I'm guessing that there's a brake or something in there). I'm going to replace all of the fluids in this tractor too. Also we're going to have to swap the tires around.

Our Ford 4500 backhoe loader before we tor into it:



Our Ford 4500 with out the loader or backhoe but with frame:

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Shaun Wallace

06-13-2019 20:58:49




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
Where are you going to put resivour and mounting hyd pump. 4500 nose will not mount on 4400 bolster.



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Ultradog MN

06-14-2019 04:14:40




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to Shaun Wallace, 06-13-2019 20:58:49  
Shaun,
I think you are incorrect.
The bolster and steering is the same on 4400 and 4500.
If he swaps the axle and adds the 4500 hardnose and hyds to this tractor he'll be there.



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Destroked 450

06-13-2019 20:52:47




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 Re: Ford tractor ID in reply to mikewood869, 06-13-2019 18:51:08  
4400 utility, gas engine, independant 540 pto, 8x2 manual trans

0G07B build date, tractor was built on July 07, 1970 day shift.



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mikewood869

06-13-2019 18:52:29




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06-13-2019 18:52:02




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