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4410 / 4400 etc PTO Shaft "Ejection" - fixed

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Vatractor

03-31-2019 02:01:05




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When I was bush hogging last summer and my PTO shaft decided to throw itself out of my tractor, I searched all over the forums for info on how to fix this. Thinking "there MUST be a youtube video of this" there wasn't. Therefore I did a novice video on how to fix this issue.
Just wanted to put it on here as well since it seems it happens too frequently on that style of tractor. Hopefully it will help anyone who runs across this issue in the future, especially sine we are about to come into bush hogging season once more.

Thankful for these forums as I couldn't have done it without the knowledge found on here and other places like this.

Disclaimer: I used a few backyard methods, but it was successful

Heres the link to Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klIUl8EK5xE&t=3s

and Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUvlgv9Ka-Y

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Vatractor

03-31-2019 19:08:05




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 Re: 4410 / 4400 etc PTO Shaft "Ejection" - fixed in reply to Vatractor, 03-31-2019 02:01:05  
Thank you for all of the additional information as well as the feedback. I know it wasn't textbook at some points in the video, but I will of course be acquiring more tools / knowledge as time goes on and issues such as this arise. Hopefully your added knowledge and experiences will aid others and better prepare them for this undertaking or even prevent it from happening.

A little background on my personal situation:
I had been lubricating the slip shaft with synthetic oil / grease as it had given me issues in the past and funny enough I had even read about this happening. In some instances (my case as an example) I believe the only close to foolproof method to prevent this would be to wire wheel the rust as needed from the shaft and then continue to apply lubricants. I say this only because of my instance after trying to prevent it with lubricants alone. Distance / travel as well was good in my case to prevent binding / pulling / pushing from multiple heights if the shaft was in good sliding order. I really wish they all had proper grease fittings as mine does not.

Again, thank you for your comments, constructive feedback, and additional statements on this matter. Hopefully this will altogether prove useful for others.

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Destroked 450

03-31-2019 11:45:34




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 Re: 4410 / 4400 etc PTO Shaft "Ejection" - fixed in reply to Vatractor, 03-31-2019 02:01:05  
Links don't work for me.

Although I have read a number of posts about pto shafts coming out of Ford tractors I have never experienced that problem myself.

I grew up on Fords and own a number of them today, 3 of which are of the 4000 series.

That said my brother did have the pto shaft come out of a 4000 he owned, the problem we found that caused it was he had not greased the mowers slip shaft in some time, the shaft had become so dry that it had gulled in spots.

Some of the newer metric slip shafts today don't have grease fittings, on those we'll slid them apart and lube them annually, if used often we check the shafts and lube anytime they look dry or require much effort to slid in and out.

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sotxbill

03-31-2019 08:09:23




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 Re: 4410 / 4400 etc PTO Shaft "Ejection" - fixed in reply to Vatractor, 03-31-2019 02:01:05  
Just a wild ideal... make sure your pto shaft can slide freely in and out and that the shaft is not too long as the shredder moves up and down on the terrain. This can cause the pto shaft to get damaged and pulled out of the bearing retainer. Good job on the fix.



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Bern

03-31-2019 07:22:23




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 Re: 4410 / 4400 etc PTO Shaft in reply to Vatractor, 03-31-2019 02:01:05  
Thanks for posting these videos so that future folks with this problem can be helped in a similar predicament. That said, I have some comments to make:

1) There was no need, or benefit, to putting the PTO handle in gear first. That step only applies to the 3000 style "live PTO". You have the 4000 style "independent PTO". That thrust washer, which you thought was a shift collar, would have fallen down regardless of what you did with the handle. The IT manual is less than clear on that I'm sure.

2) I noticed that you credited the grease on the broomstick trick to what you learned on a tractor forum, obviously here at YT. I give original credit for that idea to Rick B, who I learned that from many moons ago here on this same forum.

3) I liked your wrench idea on removing the bearing. Obviously a slide hammer would have worked better, but you made do with what you had just fine.

4) Suggest getting yourself a good set of punches and chisels for future removal of seals and installation of bearings. Beating on PVC pipe just isn't nearly as effective. Yes, it worked, but that was pretty "back woods"!

5) It would appear that you re-used the old bearing retainer gasket. I would have replaced it myself - hopefully it is not leaking.

Otherwise, good job!

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