Welcome! Please use the navigational links on your left to explore our website.

Company Logo Shop Now
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Tractor Town
Your Stories
Show & Pull Guide
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

Related Sites
Tractor Shed
TractorLinks.com
Ford 8N/9N Club
Today's Tractors
Garden Tractors
Kountry Life
  
Ford Tractors Discussion Forum
:

Cant think of what model tractor this would make

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author  [Modern View]
mikewood869

03-21-2019 17:16:17




Report to Moderator

Getting ready to do a motor swap. Going to swap the motor from the 4500. What model tractor would this make? 3 cylinder 4000 engine with a 3000 transmission and rear end. I’m guessing the 3000 motor on the 4500 transmission and rear end would make that tractor a beefed 3500.




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
mikewood869

03-23-2019 07:02:51




Report to Moderator
 Re: Cant think of what model tractor this would make in reply to mikewood869, 03-21-2019 17:16:17  
Okay so the tractor would still 50 ish pto HP (I can't remember if the book would have the specs)



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Destroked 450

03-23-2019 06:45:04




Report to Moderator
 Re: Cant think of what model tractor this would make in reply to mikewood869, 03-21-2019 17:16:17  
In mid 68 to increase hp in the 201 diesel, a new cylinder head with modified porting was introduced along with a new high lift cam, inj pump, and injectors.

Heavier I-section rods and a new air cleaner where also added.

Gas engine was changed from 192 ci to 201 and also received improvements to the head, cam, pistons and rods.

The pto on 3000 and 4000 trans are driven thru the same gears and shafts, so the 4000 engine will produce the same pto hp with ether trans, same with the 3000 engine.

4000SU uses the same front axle and steering as a 3000 along with 28" rear tires but still has the larger 4000 engine.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop

03-23-2019 05:04:47




Report to Moderator
 Re: Cant think of what model tractor this would make in reply to mikewood869, 03-21-2019 17:16:17  
How about if I put a turboed 401 on a 5000 transmission and rear end and put a 6000 nose and sheet metal on it?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Sean in PA

03-22-2019 20:19:04




Report to Moderator
 Re: Cant think of what model tractor this would make in reply to mikewood869, 03-21-2019 17:16:17  
The diesel engine was 201 ci for all years of production of the 3 cylinder 4000 series, but the gasoline engine was 192 ci from 1/1/65-3-31-68, and then they upped the gasser to a 201. The advertised hp was higher for both at that point, but I think that all they might have done to the diesel was turn up the pump a little.
Take everything on tractordata.com with a grain of sale. Since the 4110 wasn't made until 1968 it was first advertised with the higher hp. Since the 3 cylinder 4000 was first made in 65 it was first advertised with the lower hp and that is what tractordata has listed for it.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
mikewood869

03-22-2019 20:07:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: Cant think of what model tractor this would make in reply to mikewood869, 03-21-2019 17:16:17  
February of 1969.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
mikewood869

03-22-2019 20:02:53




Report to Moderator
 Re: Cant think of what model tractor this would make in reply to mikewood869, 03-21-2019 17:16:17  
and 1968 - 1975? Bigger motor or something? Ours is a 1969 tractor supposedly.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
mikewood869

03-22-2019 19:59:51




Report to Moderator
 Re: Cant think of what model tractor this would make in reply to mikewood869, 03-21-2019 17:16:17  
Dumb question, so does putting the 4000 engine on the 3000 transmission rear end, give the tractor more pto power than with the 4000 transmission rear end.

Ford 4110 LCG
http://www.tractordata.com/industrial-tractors/000/1/8/188-ford-4110.html

Ford 4000

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/003/7/7/3771-ford-4000.html

Also what are the engine difference between 1965- 1967...

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Sean in PA

03-21-2019 17:43:24




Report to Moderator
 Re: Cant think of what model tractor this would make in reply to mikewood869, 03-21-2019 17:16:17  
The front bolster and axle would tell which real model either will be closest to.
A 3 cylinder 4000 engine with a 3000 transmission and rear end would be closest to the 4110 LCG model in the 4000 series if it has the 3000 front axle, but yours won't have the shorter front spindles. If it has the 4500 front axle then there was nothing made that had that combination of front and rear axles that I am aware of.

A 3000 motor on the 4500 transmission and rear end with the 3000 front axle would be a 4000SU, and with the 4500 front axle it would be unique, as there was no model with that combination of front and rear axles either. The 3500 had the 3000 style rear axle and the 3550 had the 4000 style, so I would call it a beefed up 3550 rather than a beefed up 3500.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
Fast Shipping!  Most of our stocked parts ship within 24 hours (M-Th). We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our fast shipping, low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2019 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy