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weight in back of tractor

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swattley

02-11-2019 19:56:48




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i like to ask some opinion on my 70 ford 4000su with front loader.

the tractor came with a large weight he would pick up with 3 point hitch. i believe this was home made. this weight is not going to get on the delivery truck.
what is the best alternitive for using the loader, not getting stuck etc. i have seen wheel weights, water in rear tires (cant be a good idea in the northeast). would like to know what you guys thinkis i. this forum has been suck a huge help, thankyou.

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showcrop

02-17-2019 18:16:00




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
Swattley, most new loaders being sold today come with a quick attach system. It includes the interface and usually a bucket. If I were you I would check them out at a couple of dealers. I would decide what I like, buy the system along with the smaller bucket, then take the tractor with the quick attach and the existing bigger bucket to a fabrication shop and have them adapt the large bucket to the quick attach system.

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swattley

02-17-2019 17:55:02




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
Now that I have the tractor the tires are loaded. The front has a very heavy large bucket. I think I would like to find a smaller bucket to go on the bucket arms if that is possible and not to hard to switch back and forth when the large bucket is needed.



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paul

02-15-2019 20:58:34




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
You can make a weight pretty easy with a 35 or 55 gallon barrel depending on tractor size.

Hanging any implement you have on the 3pt works but a bigger one can sure be in the way, awkward.

Fluid in the tires is great, calcium chloride or beet juice.

Lots of options.

Paul



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fredstev

02-14-2019 13:44:23




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
Uncle Herm sitting on the drawbar ain't a bad short-term solution.



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swattley

02-14-2019 13:40:11




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
what would be a good total weight to add to the 3-point hitch ? i was thinking of getting heavy bar bell weights and make a bar that could be mounted one of the 3 point Draw bar or something strong like that.



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Hobo,NC

02-13-2019 04:56:03




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
Yard tools, shovels rakes etc... If I ever build another I will add a slot for a chain saw... I fought adding the trailer hitch deal it is nice if for nuttin else a pulling point to throw a chain over...



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Eman85

02-12-2019 19:52:47




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
What's the PVC for on those barrels?



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Hobo,NC

02-12-2019 18:45:02




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
https://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=1339912&highlight=weight

If its a decent weight I would value it at 3/$400... Even on a 4X4 tractor a counter weight is the deal...



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swattley

02-12-2019 18:27:51




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
i still plan on try to find a ride for the weight or i will have to try and bring it back this summer myself.

what about when running a york rake or other implements i plan to make to maintain the mountain road.
i found out about the adjustable wheels today and i think this will help wide the rear wheel base around the hills around the cabin.



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soundguy

02-12-2019 10:48:27




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
as the others said.. weight is king for a 2wd loader tractor. wheel weights are good, loaded tires are good ( load with antifreeze or ww fluid in cold areas ), and as said.. a 3pt weight is awesome and cheap and EZ to build.



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Dean

02-12-2019 08:23:35




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
Nothing compares to a three point mounted counterweight for FEL work.

Figure out a way to get it if you can.

Otherwise, you will soon be looking for another.

Dean



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robilmichael

02-12-2019 07:39:11




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
Hi, you will need lots of weight added to the back on any 2 wheel drive tractor with a loader. I added windshield wiper fluid (-20 deg. below type) to both tires, about 250 pounds of wheel weights to each side, and then made up a counterweight of about 700 lbs. of concrete with old iron dumped into it to hang off of the 3 pt. hitch and held up with a chain so that it does not ride off of the 3 pt. hitch hydraulics. The concrete weight can be taken off in one minute if it is not needed. Now it works great.

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showcrop

02-12-2019 05:38:59




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
Swattley, you could easily build your own 3 pt counterweight like the one that is not getting on the truck. All you need is a barrel, a cross draw bar, piece of steel to extend out the top, and some mortar mix and a bunch of rocks. That counterweight could be attached before doing a loader "job." For everyday work you will still need either $500.00 worth of wheel weights or liquid tire weight. There are pros and cons to the various liquids, but calcium chloride is far and away the most popular. It is best used in tubeless tires but it was used in tube type tires for many years before tubeless tires took over.

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JF in MI

02-12-2019 05:28:35




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
I've often thought about this. What about welding up 3 point adapter pins to a 55 gallon drum then filling it with sand? You'd have over 700 lbs there.



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Billy NY

02-12-2019 14:31:16




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to JF in MI, 02-12-2019 05:28:35  
I think that would be a problem, you need more structure than the wall thickness of the drum, sand won't provide that, but concrete steel, or cast iron will.

Many ways a weight box can be built too, fun little project. I lucked out with this treasured solid old cast iron weight with an 11 hole drawbar attached to it. I've heard the weight is from a Ford aircraft tug, drawbar is definitely Ford. One of the mechanics at our old dealership put it together for use in the yard. It remained and I ended up with it just when I needed it for a tractor.

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Billy NY

02-12-2019 04:22:27




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 Re: weight in back of tractor in reply to swattley, 02-11-2019 19:56:48  
That weight is there for a reason, too bad you can't get it. CACL, Rim Guard (Sp?) in the rear tires can provide ballast, but I find with a loader, more than that helps. They are useless without enough ballast. Wheel weights are great, no worries about CACL, but if CACL is used, it is very effective, just know to deal with any leaks right away, change valve cores periodically etc. One has to make a decision as to weights or liquid ballast. Windshield washer fluid, lighter than CACL, same with RV antifreeze or similar - use care with any of that, animals like antifreeze and it is toxic, kills easily. In snow/ice, you will want lots of rear ballast and preferably double ring chains to get effective traction with a 2WD tractor, I ran a similar one for 14 years or so and without the weight it was useless. I had rear tires filled with CACL, double ring chains and a substantial cast iron counterweight, it got very good traction in poor conditions.

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