6000 sales slide shows

With the cold weather I was able to get back to converting some of the sales slide shows I have over to digital. I have been wanting to get this one done for a long time.
6000
 
Thank you for getting that done - very nice! Is there any date associated with that filmstrip? 1960? 1961? 1962?

I did not realize that they called the engine the Red Tiger. I always thought that was reserved for the NAA.

Below is a link to a 6000 video that my friend Tim found for me. I know you've seen it, but I'll post it here for others.
6000 sales video
 
That was almost a good tractor! If Ford would have done a little better job of testing and developing the 6000, it would have been awesome. Just think if they would have put the 8 speed transmission in it!!
 
I can?t find a date on either the record or the film. The red tiger name surprised me too. On one of the other filmstrips for the 01 series they call all the 4 cylinder engines the red tiger family. 134 172 gas lp and diesel. That video is awesome. I wish the colors on the filmstrips would come through that good. But I guess it is better than nothing. I?m still going to call sometime just haven?t sat still long enough to get it done
 
I disagree. The "SOS trans only" is one reason the 6000 was so unique. To replace a powershift with a crashbox is going backwards in my opinion.

Ford's biggest fault was rushing it into production and not thoroughly testing it first. Deere had just come out with their "new generation" models, and the powers that be at Ford decided to send them out the door, ready or not. As it turned out, it was a very bad decision. Every 6000 sold initially was recalled. Just think of how successful the 6000 could have been had Ford vetted them first.
 
I don't know Bern,
A guy can think of "what ifs" all he wants but one fact remains clear:
If they had had a standard transmission there would be a lot more of them in use than the 10% you see today.
Look at the 5/7000s that replaced them.
Many of those have incredible hours on them now and are still in daily use around the world.
A simple man with simple tools from Morocco, Argentina, Nepal or Minnesota can dive into an 8 speed and successfully replace a gear or a couple of bearings. Not so with an SOS.
 
Yah, we know how much you admire the SOS trans Jerry! :)

IMHO, the reason the 5000 was such a huge success in comparison to the 6000 was not because you could also get it with a crashbox, rather it was because it didn't have nearly the issues the 6000 did when it came out. I'm sure heads were rolling at the Ford Tractor Division in the early 60s when Deere was spanking them in sales, while Ford was recalling each and every 6000 sold. I'm also certain that the 2000-5000 series had WAY more pre-production testing than the 6000 engineers ever dreamed of. I wish Harold Brock were still alive - he could say for sure.

I still think the 6000 could have been a much bigger success had the bugs been worked out prior to launch.
 


I had heard that Harold Block was "off" or away and the sos was released without his knowledge, as he had it on hold. I also believe this is why he left ford and went to JD...

Not sure where I read this or how true it is.
 
I agree Bern. If they wouldn?t have got a bad name early from the bugs I think they would have been a lot more popular tractor. Several guys I have talked to who farmed with them had great luck and really liked them. Having used both it was a huge step up from a 901. Working on a Commander now that I plan to use around the farm a little and it will be a handy tractor to have.
 
I read that he argued against the release of the SOS because testing was showing problems, but he was overruled by the top
brass. I'm not sure if he quit or was fired. Ford's loss was definitely JD's gain. I'd like to think that Henry would not have
allowed any of that to happen were he alive at the time.
 
Bern, 9000Puller,
Maybe I'm beating a dead horse but every time this gets discussed we get the Harold Brock story and how these transmissions were released before they were ready.
But that only covers the first generation of them. Iirc there were three generations of these things through 1975.
I contend they were balky, overly complex, high maintenance transmissions right up to the end. If Ford had put a true feathering valve in place of the on/off, terribly imprecise "inching pedal" that would have helped. They never did fix the overly hard shifting and in my mind all the blown TLCs and stripped input shafts is proof of that.
 
I agree with you on the TLC splines, and yes, the feathering valve operation could have been improved (although they were not simply on/off). High maintenance? Not really. Other than occasional oil and filter changes, along with an infrequent band adjustment, there wasn't much to it.

I look at the big picture, which also includes operator convenience. For certain operations that require frequent changes in speed, the SOS shines. Sure, 4-5 is a little rough, but not bad if you keep the RPMs up.

It would be one thing if the 8-speed tranny was synchronized. Since it's not, I'll take the SOS.
 
Ford had the concept right and tractor was chocked full of features--just couldn't stand Deere getting all the new generation sales so they rushed it out the door. The 6 cylinder engine was one of the smoothest ever. I ran one for a neighbor and quickly learned why the were cloned the "jerkomatic". Never understood why the SOS didn't give problems in hundred series or maybe they weren't publicized?
 

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