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Non-Running Ford 3000 Diesel - Live PTO or Not??

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Without splitting the tractor or dismantling major parts; How can I tell if my tractor has a lot of PTO or not? Also, is that the same thing as a single or double clutch? I think I know how to tail but I am just wanting to make sure in case I missed something.
 
Get the model code from under the hood or on the flat spot on the clutch housing behind the starter. If the tractor doesn?t have an 8 speed transmission
it won?t have live PTO. if it does have an 8 speed, the PTO could be either style.
 
(quoted from post at 05:21:23 01/09/19) Get the model code from under the hood or on the flat spot on the clutch housing behind the starter. If the tractor doesn?t have an 8 speed transmission
it won?t have live PTO. if it does have an 8 speed, the PTO could be either style.
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It has an 8 speed. 4 speed with high and Low
 
Does your tractor have a rod like that with the two holes under the clutch peddle?
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(quoted from post at 08:50:09 01/09/19) Does your tractor have a rod like that with the two holes under the clutch peddle?
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Yes it does have 2 holes in the clevis. My clutch arm isn't all booger welded like yours. I was told by one person that meant it had live PTO but then I spoke with a tractor salvage yard that said it didn't mean anything......
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Put the tractor in gear and the pto hold the clutch down and have some one turn the pto shaft with a pipe wrench if the tractor moves no live pto.
 
Two hole clevis generally means live pto
but who knows what has been changed over
the years. A double clevis could be put on
a non Lpto tractor.
If it were me and I was looking at the
tractor to purchase I would want to
absolutely know what it had.
So do as the others have suggested and get
us the numbers off the transmission.
Those will positively settle the matter.
 
(quoted from post at 16:52:48 01/09/19) Two hole clevis generally means live pto
but who knows what has been changed over
the years. A double clevis could be put on
a non Lpto tractor.
If it were me and I was looking at the
tractor to purchase I would want to
absolutely know what it had.
So do as the others have suggested and get
us the numbers off the transmission.
Those will positively settle the matter.
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Here you go!


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Those are not the numbers you're looking for. Those are raised casting numbers and only tell you about the design of that casting.

Look on the right side of the tractor where the starter is mounted at the engine by the flywheel, then look just to the rear a little from the starter and you'll see two large bolt holes in the transmission bell housing. Then look up just above those holes there will be a flat spot on the bell housing that faces up. The numbers you are looking for will be stamped into that flat spot. You may need to clean the area and/or scrape away some paint if there are a lot of coats. They should look like this (There should be a third number up in the rough part of the casting at the top of the picture):

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The model number, C1013C, tells you.

C10 at the beginning means that it is a 3000 series general purpose ag chassis tractor. the 1 in the next spot says that it has a diesel engine. The 3 in the next spot says that it has live PTO. The C at the end says that it has an 8 speed transmission.

Unit number 8M05B says that it was assembled on December 5 1968 during the day shift.
 
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