Ford 9600 motor has a ticking noise

Jo-ker

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Have been doing fall tillage, disking in rye seed for cover crop, im pulling a 20' Ford 224 disk. Its pulling it good. it has the power. Im pulling in 5th gear.
But i have this ticking noise, sounds like when you have a small wrench in your hand(say (9/16) and you hit a steel table with it real fast non stop. I bought
the tractor at an auction in March 2018.It didnt run at the auction(no battery). Brought her home, put a battery in her and she fired up. But it had this noise
already then. I got the injection pump rebuilt, and had new injectors put in.Im afraid it might have a worn piston pin. It has 8200 hrs, any ideas out there?
Thanks for any replies in advance
 
Take a tire tool or broomstick and put it against the valve cover to see if its there or place it against each cylinder on the block. Sometimes you can pinpoint a noise that way. I have a stethoscope like a doctor uses for that also.
 
I know it is a much smaller engine, but my 8N Ford had a ticking noise under load. Problem was small area eaten out of manifold gasket. (Intake and exhaust use same gasket) defect was in one corner of rear cylinder exhaust. New manifold gasket cleared the problem.
 
Maybe i should rephrase the question, I think i have a worn out wrist pin, what do they sound like when they are worn out, is it a tick or a knock?
 
Take the valve cover off and check valve clearance. Also you can loosen injector lines one at a time listen for a change in the noise to narrow down which cylinder the noise is on.
 
I think its a knock but not as loud as a rod. That actually comes down to your interpretation of the noise. A loose valve rocker will tick. It would run better with a valve adjustment and that would confirm one or the other. The easiest way to tell if its a pin is loosen those lines one at a time so there no load on the piston. I had the oil pump hex drive strip out on an 801 while mowing under load. The tractor kept slowing down until I looked at the oil gauge and it was 0. As soon as i pushed the clutch in it started knocking REAL loud. There is a poster on here I think he goes by 9600 Ford, he knows about them and I think Bern does also.
 
Riverroadrat, thanks for all your input,when the injector pump was rebuilt, the mechanic did the valve adjustments. so i know they are fine. Just dont know why he did comment on the ticking(clanging).
 
It?s a mistake to assume the valve lash is correct simply because the valves have been adjusted. Why would you not verify the simple stuff before condemning a wrist pin bushing? Sure they fail, and maybe one did. But the lash on 12 valves is a heck of a lot easier to check than 6 wrist pin bushings.
 
Click on Modern View and type in the search bar ford 9600 engine noise. When the page resets, click it again, it will pull up old posts on the subject, scroll down to see. A post by D17puller might give you some insight.
 
RickB you maybe right, im assuming that the fellow that adjusted my valves did it correctly because he has been fixing Fords at a Ford dealership since 1969.
Having said that it does sound like valve lash, hope it is.
 
If this guy truly has been working on Fords for the past 50 years, then I gotta think he did the valve adjustment correctly, unless he's going senile. Yes, wrist pin bushings do go out on those engines - they start out as a ticking noise and get progressively worse. It has been my observation that the noise gets louder as the engine is revved, because the piston is smacking the valves/cylinder head with greater force as the RPMs increase.

If you have access to a borescope (they're pretty cheap nowadays), you could remove all of the injectors and look inside each hole. A cylinder with worn wrist pins will most likely show distinct witness marks on top of the piston from valve contact. If you do get a borescope, make sure the business end will fit inside a hole that measures .350".
 
Riverroadrat, checked out previous posts from D17puller,good comments. Bern may have hit the nail on the head. When my 9600 starts up there is no knocking/ticking/clanging,but slowly emerges as the motor warms up and gets louder as the oil warms up and thins out.
 
If you have some brainy-smurf youngins around they can take a video with sound on their phones and post it. I don't know how to do that.
 
Slightly OT but related....on the smart kids nowadays and their phones.....had a friend's grandson do that for her...he's in the first grade! So where are these kids going to be in 20 years.............wayyyyyyyyyyyyy ahead of where we were at that age!
 
The problem is their brains are in the phone, hijacked for most of their time. Look this up its a good read, to make it tractor related, self-driving tractors. Tristan Harris
Co-founder, Center for Humane Technology // Ex-Google Design Ethicist // CEO of Apture (acquired by Google) // Philosopher // Entrepreneur // Friend // Human.
May 18, 2016
How Technology is Hijacking Your Mind ? from a Magician and Google Design Ethicist

Estimated reading time: 12 minutes.
 
I'll agree on retail merchant cashiers of today. But on the phones and how to operate, which is over my head (by choice) they are a whiz.

If buttons are the rage of the future and no apparent end to it, then they are whizzing right along...even though they can't (maybe) make change in their head, like we did.........you hand a cashier several bills and some coins to get a single, smaller bill and no change with a purchase.......and they give you a blank look or punch it in and wait for the cash register to tell them how much to refund. Not really necessary that they can do it......it's just the way we did it......because we didn't have the cash registers that could do our thinking for us. Wink!
 
I work with teens and 20-somethings on a daily basis. Ask them to do any kind of troubleshooting that requires thinking and pondering, and many come up with blank stares after finding out that Google and Siri don't have an answer that solves the problem.

Yes, they know how to manipulate their phones very well, but take it away from them and they are helpless babes.
 

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