'64 4000 reverser tranny modification

I know these reversing trannys don't come with a reverse. Can you install a reverse in them? Would I need a different shift plate also.?

I'm not sure I understand your question. Pushing the lever foward you have four foward gears pulling the lever back you have four reverse gears. What is it you are trying to do?

When the reverser gives up I would just put a reverse in there if not too much trouble. I Know the shift plate isnt marked with a reverse like the regular 4 speed.

Is this a true 1964 4000 with a 4 cylinder engine? If so, then if it has a reverser transmission, it should be a regular 4 speed with 4 forward gears and one reverse gear on the regular shifter, and a Sherman Auxiliary Reversing Transmission which has a handle down on the left side of the bell housing that reverses the setup so you have 4 reverse gears and 1 forward gear.

If you are talking about a 4x4 manual reversing transmission, those were only used on the 3 cylinder thousand series tractors from 1965-3/31/68. They switched to the 6x4 manual reverser on 4/1/68. But those 4x4 reversers had two forward and 2 reverse speeds on the main shifter and hi/low ranges on the secondary shifter, so that doesn't sound like what you are asking about.

Then there's the 4x4 torque converter power reversing transmission, which was only use on the 1965+ tractors as well, and those just had 4 speeds on the main transmission shifter period. And the power reverser activated two clutches via hydraulics, one for forward and one for reverse, so if your hydraulics go and you don't have reverse, you are S.O.L. and you probably don't have forward either. There is no way to add a reverse gear to manual gearbox part of that transmission as far as I know.

I just swapped mine out on my 1971 4500 industrial with a 6x2 since I didn't want to deal with the 4x4 reverser transmission.

I'll have to look it over tomorrow, its a factory 4030, still has factory paint on it. I was pretty sure it didn't have an R on the shifter plate. It has the Sherman reverser in it. We had one tractor that I know had a regular 4 speed with reverse and the sherman, if you put both in reverse it would go forward.

I think the 4030 had pretty much the same transmission that my 4500 had, your tractor shouldn't have a clutch pedal if it uses a torque converter like the 4500.

(quoted from post at 06:53:42 10/25/18) I know these reversing trannys don't come with a reverse. Can you install a reverse in them? Would I need a different shift plate also.?

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Does your shift cover look like this, this is off a 64 4130. Is your 4030 a 62? Does your reversing shift lever look like this? Your transmission should have a reverse gear. I don't use reverse on the main trans. just 1st or 2nd and shift the reversing lever forward or backward.

I can honestly say I never actually put it in reverse on the main trans since I've had this forklift. Kind of a PITA shifting on main trans under the seat and
when you do shift you have to remember your sitting in the opposite direction. If it's a '64 then it's not shift on the fly, you should be stopped when engaging
sherman. If it's a standard tractor and not a forklift then when sherman wears out either replace what you need or go with a standard input shaft.

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(quoted from post at 21:58:44 10/25/18) I think the 4030 had pretty much the same transmission that my 4500 had, your tractor shouldn't have a clutch pedal if it uses a torque converter like the 4500.

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The 4030 is a pre-1965 4 cylinder 4000 light industrial model. It never had a true 4x4 or 6x4 manual reverser available. Those were introduced with the 1965+ thousand series models.

Yes, that's it, nice tractor BTW. I just thought they didn't put a reverse gear in them. I still have to look at it better to see if there is an R on there.

All of mine have no reverse, no R, just the reversing tranny to do the job. I was using one today.

(quoted from post at 20:28:44 10/26/18) All of mine have no reverse, no R, just the reversing tranny to do the job. I was using one today.

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That's odd. As far as I know the Sherman Reverser just replaced the input shaft on the regular 4 speed transmission, just like the step-up, step-down and combo Sherman models. Why they would go through the trouble of removing the reverse gear from the main transmission is a mystery to me. If that is truly the case, then the OP may want to consider simply getting a regular 4 speed with reverse and moving his Sherman Reverser over to that.

Ford may have changed it for safety reasons. If you put it in double reverse it will go forward. There may have been people killed that way.