questions about adding Ford 860 AUX hydraulics

Hello!! I've been browsing Yesterday's Tractors forums for months now and finally decided to register because I have a few questions I can't find specific answers to.
I recently purchased a Ford 860 for hay making and general small farm work, and I've encountered something I have to figure out. I have purchased a rake and secured a nice baler, and a mower is the last piece I need to be ready for next year. I have decided on a haybine because of my green and probably non-existent skills managing weather. Money is a serious concern so I was hesitant to make this call, and depending on the cost of adding an aux hydraulic port which is necessary for a haybine (unless there is some sort of manual pump option...) I may yet have to do a sickle/conditioner combo.
Anyway, on to the questions.

Firstly, does the single spool hydraulic remote valve kit seen here

https://www.external_link/FDS3364Single-Spool-Double-Acting-Hydraulic-Remote-Valve-Kit?CID=FDS3364&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0dHdBRDEARIsAHjZYYDxt93MF_IRWcPSom0WLdSrCmfHSfovA153Pl0I8c_4k-Sk_Yj42hkaAkPVEALw_wcB#swf-view

replace the old lever? or does it fit over a different access panel on the hydraulic cover? If it fits over a different access panel, how does it work? Do you have to use the original lever to lift the original 3pt arms all the way up, having max hydraulic pressure, then you can operate the aftermarket aux lever to manage the hydraulic flow into the aux/remote ports for an implement? Is this same method applied with the more primitive version of no lever/direct ports seen here..

https://www.external_link/FDS457-hydraulic-valve-adapter-kit-includes-orings-and-instructions?CID=FDS457&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0dHdBRDEARIsAHjZYYA11WN0_gBu5p_s5MqgjHey2wYDdToE4wokc6L3ftAgXHE4nodHkNcaArdGEALw_wcB

I've read with this way you have to chain the 3point arms down so the fluid goes out the direct ports instead, which would cause the original hydraulic 3pt lever to control the implement instead of the arms. Do you have to chain the 3point arms down for either method?

Question #2, in the second link I shared you would need to purchase and install your own hydraulic 3/8" hoses and female couplers, right?

I hope this isn't confusing to you as the reader.. I'm just trying to grasp how this works. I'm leaning with option #2, chaining down my 3 point arms and using the stock hydraulic lever to control whichever haybine I end up purchasing because of financial reasons.
 
You posted links to a competitor apparently, so they won't work.
The entire post is invisible on modern view for the same reason.
Note that they say external link disallowed.
So we can't really see what you're referencing.

A standard external hydraulic valve, Ford or aftermarket, mounted
in place of the plate on the top of the lift cover on an 860 can
provide single or dual remote hydraulics with no need to chain the
3pt down or swap between using them and the 3pt.
Those were things that were common on the N series.
 
Welcome to the board and say hello to your
brother. Tell him not to be a stranger.
Your best bet is to find a used remote
hydraulic valve that bolts directly onto
your tractor.
You will find diferent brands and styles
and single an dual spooled/handled ones.
A guy can buy an aluminum plate that goes
under that top plate and install an
aftermarket valve somewhere but by the time
you buy the plate, valve and hoses then
create a snake's nest of hoses you are no
money ahead and have a real well, snake's
nest.
Remote valves are a simple, clean way to
go. They are not cheap mind you. A used one
will cost about $150_$250 for a single
handle and most of double that for a dual.
The exact same valve will fit All the
smaller Fords (under 60 hp) from 1955
through 1983 and maybe beyond.
They can still be purchased brand new but
for most of us they are cost prohibitive -
like upwards of $1K or so.
Photo shows a dual remote valve that is
mounted on a 3600. 4 bolts and some Orings
and it would drop right on your tractor.
PC170013.jpg
 
This site sells a complete kit with valve block, hoses, female ISO couplers, and bracket for less than $300.00. They don't show a two spool one where I looked (801), but I've seen two spool valve kits elsewhere, and YT should be able to order you one if you need two remotes.
 

Okay, I was able to see the first comment explaining the external links caused my post to be hidden on "modern view". I cant figure out how to change modern view to something else so I can see my original post to edit it. Sorry! New to these forums.

So.. does the hydraulic chamber always have pressure when the tractor is running? Is that how the aftermarket lever is able to allow hydraulic pressure into the lines? I thought the idea behind chaining the 3pt arms down was that the stock 3pt lever would fill the chamber with hydraulic/fluid & pressure, thus moving the piston and mechanically then raising lowering the arms. By tying the arms down, it forces the pressure out the additionally added hydraulic ports instead of causing the piston to press the 3pt arm mechanics. If this is the case, how does the aftermarket single or double spool lever apply hydraulic fluid & pressure out the remote hoses if there isnt any pressure in the main chamber to begin with to utilize? That's why I'm wondering if you have to chain the arms down whether you have the lever valve or not, or if the 3pt arms have to be raised with the stock 3pt lever so that there is pressure to be utilized by the aftermarket lever.
I dont think I grasp fully how the system operates.. hopefully someone can make sense of my explanation of what I think is happening and correct me where I am wrong!
 

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