Might be a light industrial

Dirtsmith

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I am now the proud owner of a brand-new-to-me Ford tractor, and subsequently a new member to this forum.

Thank you for your time reading my posting and for your thoughts regarding my tractor.

From research I have done - predominantly on this forum - here is what I think I have. I emphasize "think" as some of what my research has revealed seems to conflict with what my tractor tells me.

I think it is a 1964 based on the serial number is, which is <>45134<>, but the sheetmetal looks like it is a hundred series with the round emblem, where stars fill the periphery and there is a picture of wheat in the middle (clearly not a Jubilee), as opposed to the eyelid sort of shape that I have seen on 'confirmed' 1964 Ford 4000 tractors.

The model number is 41300 -S, yet it has a working PTO and a spot for a shifter for a Sherman transmission, however the shifter is not there (I don't know if the Sherman guts are). I am also speculating that the "-S" means Sherman, I have not found any indication as to what it really means. The model number also suggests that this could be a light industrial model (because of the fixed front axel).

With that said, the colors are red and light grey, but where the paint is chipped, I can see blue paint on the chassis, and on the sheet metal I can see light yellow under the grey. It is my understanding that blue paint was used for these '62-'64 model in the transition to the "thousand" series and yellow indicated the industrial models.

My tractor also came with a loader. Using photos found online, the loader looks most like a Ford 720, but I don't see any markings or stampings on the frame. It is also painted red.

The loader bucket itself is the only item with an identifiable brand name, "Gannon", no other obvious markings.

I actually use this tractor for work, but I like the thing so gosh-darn much, that I am looking to do some minor restoration on it. I would like to restore its proper colors and proper sheetmetal and try to get proper hardware for it.

Should one of you know something about what I have here, I sure would like to hear from you.
 

This is my second attempt to attach an image of my tractor, the first attempt in my initial post appears to have not worked.
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The model number and serial number are stamped into a flat spot on the transmission bell housing, so they only tell you about the tractor that the transmission was in when it left the factory.

41300 -S would be a 4000 light industrial with a Sherman auxiliary transmission. But again, that would be the tractor that the transmission was in when it left the factory.

I can't see the front axle very well from your picture. The front axle is really the only thing that is structurally different between the light industrial models and the regular ag chassis models. Could you post a picture of the front axle, and one of the front of the tractor showing the grill and medallion?
 

Thank you Sean in PA for your reply.

Here are the two photo's you requested.

The radiator started leaking yesterday and I am in the process of taking the sheet metal off to see where the leak is. Please disregard the crooked grill.
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That is a light industrial front axle, so the transmission is probably original. A lot of old loader tractors have had the original sheet metal damaged by careless operators rolling back the bucket too far and dumping part of the load on the hood, so my guess would be that it is a 4130 light industrial with replacement '01 series tin.
 
I wish this site would let you edit your posts. I want to correct that last part to say hundred series tin. If it was '01 series and it fit properly over the larger gas tank of a 4000 then it would have the 801 series egg crate grill.
 
"then it would have the 801 series egg crate grill."

That kind of looks like the inner screen for the x01 grill to me Sean.
I don't see the egg crate, but don't see the ribs of the x00 either.
Either way, the axle does not look like the AG axle.

As UD said, look inside the shifter hole. What's in there?
 
I must have been tired last night. Looking at it again this morning I do see some of the the egg crate grid, so it is an 801 grill with some things missing.
 
(quoted from post at 21:38:41 10/03/18) Look inside the hole where the Sherman
shifter handle would be. You might just be
missing the handle.

Hi Ultradog MN,

I happen to have an endoscope, so I stuck it inside the hole and (pointing the camera toward the front) I saw clutch release springs, a main input shaft some bearings.

While pointing the camera toward the rear, I saw nothing. Probably because I stopped fighting the the camera after a while.I probably should have been able to see more of the actual transmission but there was something in the way that I could no get the camera past such that I could see the gears.
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Pictured is the left side of the transmission case, in the center is the hole where I suspect a shifter to engage the Sherman, would be.
 
You can't see the gears inside the main transmission or in the Sherman (if it still has one) by looking through that hole. That hole goes into the bell housing area where the clutch is located, and which is isolated from the interior of the transmission where the gears are located, and the gears for the Sherman are inside their own housing in the rear of the bell housing area, right where you are saying there is something blocking your scope from turning in that direction, so I would bet that the Sherman is still in there, or at lest enough of it to still transfer power through from the clutch to the transmission.
 

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