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6 cyl diesel in a hundred series

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michford

07-28-2018 20:06:05




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Saw this 820 with a 6 cyl diesel engine from a 6000 commander transplanted into it at the Walloon Lake Flywheeler show. Talked with the builder, the trans and starter bolted right up. He did stretch the hood sheetmetal and the radius rods. Note the belt was off to drive the injector pump so tractor was not in running condition.
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Sean in PA

07-29-2018 06:24:14




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to michford, 07-28-2018 20:06:05  
Interesting, looks like a 7 or 8 blade plastic fan.
I like the rusty soup can covering the intake pipe too.



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Shaun Wallace

07-29-2018 05:14:06




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to michford, 07-28-2018 20:06:05  
Flow the lines. Looks to run hyd pump for3 point.



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Bern

07-29-2018 06:21:22




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to Shaun Wallace, 07-29-2018 05:14:06  
Good catch! I didn't notice that the hydraulic pump was missing. I doubt that 3-point will lift many heavy loads with a belt driven pump.



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Bern

07-28-2018 21:00:21




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to michford, 07-28-2018 20:06:05  
Very nice looking job - thanks for sharing.

That said, the belt does not drive the injection pump.



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michford

07-28-2018 21:15:14




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to Bern, 07-28-2018 21:00:21  
Now that you say that about the belt, I wasn t thinking right. The injector pump has to be mechanically driven so it stays timed correctly. What should the belt be driving on the engine?



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Dean

07-29-2018 05:47:11




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to michford, 07-28-2018 21:15:14  
PS pump.

Dean



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fordfarmer

07-29-2018 07:27:49




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to Dean, 07-29-2018 05:47:11  
That was my first thought too... but there aren't any p/s cylinders.



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Dean

07-29-2018 10:12:12




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to fordfarmer, 07-29-2018 07:27:49  
There would have been on the 6000.

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Bern

07-29-2018 12:09:37




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to Dean, 07-29-2018 10:12:12  
PS pump on a 6000 was mounted on the front cover and driven directly by the timing gear train.



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Bern

07-28-2018 21:24:32




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to michford, 07-28-2018 21:15:14  
Fan, water pump, generator...



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riveroadrat

07-29-2018 06:21:13




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to Bern, 07-28-2018 21:24:32  
I think I'd add power steering. Isnt that engine basically a 2 cylinders added 172?



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agjim

07-29-2018 20:04:22




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to riveroadrat, 07-29-2018 06:21:13  
It's closer to the 601 diesel (144 cid) than 801 (172 cid). I put 6000 piston in a 144 cid block and cut about .100 off the deck of the block to make the piston reach the top of the deck. The wrist pin is the same size for the 6000 and the 601 diesel and the rod and main journals are the same diameter for both engines.



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Bern

07-29-2018 06:48:15




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 Re: 6 cyl diesel in a hundred series in reply to riveroadrat, 07-29-2018 06:21:13  
One would think so because they look very similar on the outside, until you do the math. 172 / 4 = 43 cubic inches per cylinder. 43 x 6 = 258 cubic inches. Problem is, a 6000 diesel engine is 242 cubes.

I took a closer look at the details. A 172 engine is 3.90 bore x 3.60 stroke. A 242 engine (6000 diesel) is 3.62 bore x 3.90 stroke. I'm guessing the engineers were looking for more lugging ability with the longer stroke.

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