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!92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head

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riveroadrat

04-27-2018 19:04:54




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I called my dealer today and they said the parts arent interchangeable. Have any of you swapped these diesel heads before and is there any thing I need to know about the swap?




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ptfarmer

04-28-2018 23:46:59




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-27-2018 19:04:54  
Someone with company that deals with Ford Power Products (Ford industrial engines) could answer that. Since the 192 was never used in Ford agricultural, or construction equipment it can't be found in the agricultural, or construction on line parts books for Fords.



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riveroadrat

04-28-2018 17:40:54




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-27-2018 19:04:54  
I copied this from a former post. I should have put it in capital letteres.



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riveroadrat

04-29-2018 06:01:07




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-28-2018 17:40:54  
Have an early 1960's #200 Timberjack cable skidder with an 172ci gas Ford industrial engine. Want to replace with a diesel and add a few hoursepower. I have located a good 201ci diesel out of a Ford 5000 tractor, will be an easy swap or should I stick with either a 192 or last resort 192 diesel engine. . I COPIED THIS FROM A FORMER POST FOR THE FELLOW WHO SAID HE HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE 192 DIESEL. The head looks the same but has different casting numbers. I just wonder what the difference, if any, would be in the casting design BETWEEN THE 172 AND 192 DIESEL.

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riveroadrat

04-28-2018 18:52:22




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-28-2018 17:40:54  
Have an early 1960's #200 Timberjack cable skidder with an 172ci gas Ford industrial engine. Want to replace with a diesel and add a few hoursepower. I have located a good 201ci diesel out of a Ford 5000 tractor, will be an easy swap or should I stick with either a 192 or last resort 192 diesel engine. . I COPIED THIS FROM A FORMER POST FOR THE FELLOW WHO SAID HE HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE 192 DIESEL. The head looks the same but has different casting numbers. I just wonder what the difference, if any, would be in the casting design BETWEEN THE 172 AND 192 DIESEL.

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riveroadrat

04-28-2018 05:44:38




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-27-2018 19:04:54  
Have an early 1960's #200 Timberjack cable skidder with an 172ci gas Ford industrial engine. Want to replace with a diesel and add a few hoursepower. I have located a good 201ci diesel out of a Ford 5000 tractor, will be an easy swap or should I stick with either a 192 or last resort 192 diesel engine. I copied this from a former post. The head looks the same but has different casting numbers. I just wonder what the difference, if any, would be in the casting design.

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Dieseltech

04-28-2018 11:12:24




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-28-2018 05:44:38  
The 201 three cylinder was in late 4000 tractors, 5000 had either 233 or 256 four cylinder engines. I'd rather have a 201,233, or 256 as they are much better engines that the 172 diesel.



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Dean

04-28-2018 08:52:16




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-28-2018 05:44:38  
The Ford 201 CI three cylinder diesel engine is 100% different from either the 172 CI or the 192 CI four cylinder engines. There is no commonality.

Dean



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fordfarmer

04-28-2018 06:42:34




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-28-2018 05:44:38  
The 201 (which would be out of a 4000; 5000's had either 233's or 256's, depending on the year) will not be a direct swap by any means - different bellhousing bolt pattern, and I think a different front mounting pattern as well.



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ptfarmer

04-28-2018 00:37:33




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-27-2018 19:04:54  
Isn't the 192 industrial 4 cylinder a 172 but with just a bigger bore than what was used in tractors.



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Dean

04-28-2018 09:12:26




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to ptfarmer, 04-28-2018 00:37:33  
Yes.

Dean



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Dean

04-27-2018 19:29:03




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to riveroadrat, 04-27-2018 19:04:54  
I've never seen a four cylinder 192 CI diesel.

If there is such thing, the head will be designed for a significantly larger bore. Installing it on a smaller bore will decrease the CR considerably. It likely will not start or run.

Dean



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Dieseltech

04-28-2018 04:28:04




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to Dean, 04-27-2018 19:29:03  
Most direct injected diesels have flat surface heads with bowl style pistons. Changing one flat surface head for another won't change compression at all, IF they are both flat, no matter what the CID change is.



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RBnSC

04-28-2018 04:30:45




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 Re: !92 diesel head to replace 172 diesel head in reply to Dieseltech, 04-28-2018 04:28:04  
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