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What do you use to secure O rings before installing

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corvetttteguy

04-27-2018 03:52:17




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In many instances I have to install

small O rings underneath a part before installing

it down. (pump manifold, remote hydraulics, ect)

What do you use to keep them in place.

(super glue, non hardening permatex,???)




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corvetttteguy

04-30-2018 04:13:16




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
No

This is a transplant of the entire hydraulic
system from a donor 641 to my 821 industrial

backhoe tractor.

When I was checking out the 641 engine with

the hydraulics lid removed and pump still

attached, I found that turning the motor over by hand

caused the pump to push fluid out the hydraulics tubes.

However, the pump was removed 1 year ago.

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Larry NCKS

04-29-2018 18:24:18




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
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I believe he indicated that's not all he did. Reread all his replies and perhaps you'll see it.



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Sean in PA

04-29-2018 17:58:08




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
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If all you did was pull the valve on the top cover and clean things up and put it back on, then the pump shouldn't have lost prime, Everything in that area where you were working is past the pump in the hydraulics circuit and any air introduced there should work itself out on its own.



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Larry NCKS

04-29-2018 16:53:56




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
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Nope! Just bleed it out once it's all installed. I usually pull the coil wire and crank the engine until oil fills the pump with its bleeder plug removed. Then I replace the plug and coil wire. If this is a diesel, just don't turn the fuel on and crank it with the throttle lever in the shutoff position.



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corvetttteguy

04-29-2018 14:44:52




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
Yes,

I thought that if the O rings were holding

in the recess I would be OK. I took it

apart and re-did the rings with Vasalene

and then reinstalled the plates. With a
total of 8 O rings both large and small

it is good to use any trick that will

forestall an error.

Next is to install the hydraulic pump to

the motor and manifold. Any tricks to

minimize trapping air in the pump?

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Eman85

04-28-2018 14:55:00




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
Somehow you missed something in the translation. You smear vaseline around the recess and use it like glue to hold the o-rings in place. Then you can also lube the o-rings themselves so they slide and not grab the mating surface,



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corvetttteguy

04-28-2018 07:03:40




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
I took your advise

First I installed the 8 O rings on the bottom of the plate.

I installed dry. Then turned it over and tapped on the

plat to insure no O ring would fall off.
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Then I used the vasalene to coat around the bottom

plate holes. To insure that if the plates miss-register on

bringing them together The O rings would slip on the

bottom and not tear out the O ring from the socket.

I also set up two long bolts to use as guides to hopefully

make good registration.
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Then I put the bolts through the top plate and
turned a few threads. Then lowered the top plate

till it was flat on the bottom.
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I hope all went well.

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Eman85

04-27-2018 19:38:32




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
Vaseline, use it inside auto transmissions to lube o-rings on rebuild. It's petroleum and melts at a low temp.



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Larry NCKS

04-27-2018 19:10:06




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
I'm with the Vaseline crowd! Heat will dissipate Vaseline whereas some of the greases can stay intact and cause problems if they get in the wrong place.



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RickB

04-27-2018 18:03:55




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
Vaseline.



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Bern

04-27-2018 06:53:04




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
Vaseline



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showcrop

04-27-2018 05:38:09




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
Grease, usually wheel bearing type.



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Texasmark1

04-27-2018 05:25:30




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
Vaseline (brand) petroleum jelly.



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JWA

04-27-2018 04:47:53




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
I use a light coat of grease.



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michford

04-27-2018 04:10:59




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 Re: What do you use to secure O rings before installing in reply to corvetttteguy, 04-27-2018 03:52:17  
The pump manifold and remote hydraulic oring applications are all a face seal type application. Being a face seal, the orings fit into a counterbore that keeps the oring in place if the correct diameter oring is used. The correct oring will not just loosely fit into the counterbore, you will have to push the oring into the counterbore where will stay put.



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