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J.Mc

07-08-2017 07:09:25




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I just picked up a beautiful 53 Jubilee with a loader for cheap, however it won't move. Runs great, seems to be able to find all the gears, and PTO turns as it should. The guy I got it from said he was using it and heard a "ping" from the rearend and it just quit moving. I was originally gonna use it for parts, but would rather try to fix it if possible. Anyone have any ideas as to what the issue could be and if it's worth the money or should I just use it as a parts tractor like I originally intended.

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J.Mc

07-17-2017 16:27:28




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J.Mc

07-17-2017 16:18:34




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
Well, I don't figure the bolts are gonna break all too easy. They are grade 8 3/8" bolts with aircraft nuts. If the do break, then I'd rather it be there than a pinion or spider gear. I'll try and put a different picture of it up. I tried before, and ended up with 2 of the same one somehow..



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Larry NCKS

07-16-2017 17:47:51




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
Glad you got it runnin', but if it snapped that big shaft, how long do you think it will take to snap those four little bolts?



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J.Mc

07-16-2017 14:54:43




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
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J.Mc

07-16-2017 14:52:50




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
So, this is what we came up with as a fix for the broken coupling. May have slightly over engineered it, however no tractor splitting was involved and it runs like a champ!!



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Royse

07-09-2017 05:56:57




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
"the best welder I know has the initials J.B."

I don't really think that would work in this case. ;)



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J.Mc

07-09-2017 05:06:00




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
Thanks for the feedback. It was easier to pull the top plate like I did because of the loader assembly he has mounted to the tractor. No difference now, it all has to come apart. Last question... Is this considered an actual driveshaft? Been looking through the manual, and it appears the only reference I see to it just calls it a coupling. Guess it's just curiosity. Royce.. the best welder I know has the initials J.B.

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Kirk-NJ

07-09-2017 00:07:58




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
Also pull your trans cover and make sure your rails are alined and with a long screwdriver or small crowbar gently move the rails to shift gears this will also give you an idea of the condition of the fluid and gear wear and or broken or chipped gear teeth.

Kirk



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Royse

07-08-2017 18:11:12




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
Do you know a really good welder?



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J.Mc

07-08-2017 13:50:19




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
Ahaa! I do believe this is supposed to be in 1 piece! Just need to figure out how to fix it now. third party image



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Kirk-NJ

07-08-2017 17:48:28




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 13:50:19  
That's why I said pull the side cover first. A lot easier then the top cover but it's done so split and replace. After replacement jack up rear and make sure everything operates as it should, if ok put your top cover back on and you'll be good to go.

Kirk



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old

07-08-2017 13:55:42




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 13:50:19  
Looks like yoru going to have to split it to repair and it and you will need to find that part to boot



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Kirk-NJ

07-08-2017 09:37:42




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
Pull the side cover off and check the connecting coupler between the trans and rear to see if that's broken first.

Kirk



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J.Mc

07-08-2017 09:04:24




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
Thanks, I'll try and get a look at that this afternoon. I just got it home late last night, so haven't really messed with it. I did notice after my first post, that it won't go into 1st and 2nd gear. Thought for sure he showed me all gears were good yesterday, but may have hit 3rd and 4th twice instead of all of them. Not sure if that would make any difference, but thought I would mention it. I also jacked the back end up and spun the tires hoping to see them move as a single unit, but they only rotate independently.

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old

07-08-2017 09:23:16




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 09:04:24  
When you jack a tractor truck or car up and try the spin one tire unless you have it in gear one tire will spin and the other may or may not spin because of the way the Diff. works. If you put it in gear and try to spin a tire one with go one direction and the other is every thing is working correctly with spin in the opposite direction. One way to maybe check for a broken axle is to jack up one side and put it in gear and try to spin that wheel. You should not be able o spin it but is you can then you have something broken in the rear end area

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old

07-08-2017 08:36:25




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
I agree good chance it has a broken axle. Seen that more then once with a Jubilee with a loader. The axles where a bit on the weak side on them



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sunbeam

07-08-2017 07:44:45




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 Re: NAA won't move in reply to J.Mc, 07-08-2017 07:09:25  
Broken axle Remove the rear end fill plug with a flashlight you should be able to see the ring gear if it is turning it would be a good clue.



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