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Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this?

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Jo-ker

01-20-2017 17:49:39




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Greetings Ford Lovers, i have come across a JD 7000 12row planter thats in good shape and affordable ($10000cdn). Really tempting, but im wondering if my 7710 has the power and hydraulics to run this planter?IM on sandy land and have some hills to climb. Anybody ever pull a 12 row planter with their 7710? How about if i didnt run fertilizer and jettisoned the fert boxes(im planting soybeans)Would that make it easy to pull?

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showcrop

01-26-2017 03:56:57




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
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At 63 years old it should be pretty well used up after one major overhaul at around 1964, and lighter use since. The tires will probably crack badly when he starts to use it. He needs to evaluate the engine by measuring compression and hot oil pressure. He should run the hydraulics some the see if the three point will hold a load in the air for a day. I don't know what an auger takes for power. You really should start a new thread in order to get attention from the guys on classic.

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gold-leaf-deere

01-25-2017 19:48:33




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
My son has the chance to buy a 1954 Ford 640, he would like to use it to pull a 6 foot trim mower and to PTO drive a 8 inch 51 foot auger for about 15000 bu of grain each season. Do you Ford fellows think this tractor would handle these two jobs? This tractor is a one owner with 63 year old original tires, was pro painted about 25 years ago, has never set outside overnight, has not ran in about 10 years, motor is not stuck, sheet metal is flawless. What is the opinion of it's approximate cash value? Thanks for your opinions.

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bruce from ontario

01-24-2017 16:35:05




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
pulling a nine 22" planter with dry fert and three coulters per row with a dualup two wheel drive . its a pull but getsurdone.



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johnwayne360

01-22-2017 15:12:06




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
I pull an 8 row 38 planter(no fertilizer) fairly easily. pto pump. I say lifting the planter might take a little extra time. You also might be pulling it at 3 mph. but i believe it would work with a little operating skill.



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JD Seller

01-21-2017 20:42:34




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
That JD 7000 12 x 30 planter would be a hand full. Especially if it is a front fold model. The three point load would be more than I would want on that size tractor. In the field just planting soybeans you would be OK if you ran duals for traction. The trouble would be transporting it safely. I just do not think it would work.



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RodInNS

01-21-2017 11:01:56




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
The 77 can do a lot more than people tend to think.... but you're probably pushing it to it's limit on that ask. I'm really not familiar with planters of that size... but based on the smaller ones I've used I would say you're probably going to find that 8 is enough.

Rod



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NY 986

01-21-2017 10:04:20




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
I pull a front fold 12 row 7000 with tanks on the tractor therefore no tank or hopper on the planter plus there are no coulters or trash wheels with an IH 986. The past few years all the fertilizer has gone on dry so the 986 had no additional ballast and it pulled it fine including a steep hill. Tractor Data should let you glimpse the hydraulic capability for my 986, your 7710, or anything else mentioned here for comparison. Good tires on your 7710 will mean a lot. My 986 has 90 plus percent tread remaining.

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David G

01-21-2017 11:10:46




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to NY 986, 01-21-2017 10:04:20  
The 986 is a brute, IMHO will easily will out do a 4020, great tractor



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David G

01-20-2017 19:38:24




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
I do think you will struggle with this, they are a heavy planter, you will be much happier with 8 row no till 7000 or 7200.

Once you go no till, you will enjoy the time and soil savings, and can always do full till anyway.



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sunbeam

01-20-2017 19:30:15




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
A 7710 3 point rating 4473 lbs a 4020 is 3790 lbs and a 4430 is 4530 with 4x4 I think it will work.



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David G

01-20-2017 20:36:45




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to sunbeam, 01-20-2017 19:30:15  
Sorry about snapping at you.



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Jo-ker

01-21-2017 05:38:56




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to David G, 01-20-2017 20:36:45  
No worries, I needed to know because in the photo the seller sent me it looked mammoth, i think it will work the hell out of my 7710.



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David G

01-21-2017 09:48:33




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-21-2017 05:38:56  
The 7000 and 7200 series are really heavy built good planters. A 12 row works the snot out of 4020 with duals, and the tractor gets plenty light on the front end. I think you will be working at the top end of the HP rating most of the time, and do not know if that is OK, or not. I would not want to run a turbo engine against the stops all day, but that is me. In my view, 6 row is too easy, 12 row too hard, so 8 should be about right. My 6610 walks off with 6 row, but gets pushed around even moving the 12 row 7200 around the yard. You can pick up a no till ready planter for very little more, but buying the parts gets pricy. I would not buy a planter that is not no till ready, even if not doing it not, gives you the options.

I would like to hear from JD Seller, he has tons of experience with these planters in hilly country.

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David G

01-20-2017 19:41:16




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to sunbeam, 01-20-2017 19:30:15  
Have you pulled 12 row with 90 HP tractor, I have, worked the snot out of them?



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showcrop

01-20-2017 19:18:55




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
Yes, you need close to 100 HP but your 7710 will make that easily.



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centash

01-20-2017 19:38:20




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to showcrop, 01-20-2017 19:18:55  
Factory hp is 86....can they turn out over 100 easily? Ben



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RodInNS

01-21-2017 10:53:52




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to centash, 01-20-2017 19:38:20  
Yes... Probably 120 if you're careful. I've had mine dualed and ballasted down close to 14000 and set somewhere over 100 hp since quite a long time.

Rod



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Destroked 450

01-20-2017 19:04:27




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
I'd think 8 rolls would be plenty for a 7710

If the price is right you could cut it down and have spare units.



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David G

01-20-2017 19:12:16




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Destroked 450, 01-20-2017 19:04:27  
That is a LOT of work, that is a solid planter, just much easier to find 8 row, parts are common, great planters.



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David G

01-20-2017 18:58:40




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
Just curious is it set up for no till?



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Jo-ker

01-20-2017 19:17:51




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to David G, 01-20-2017 18:58:40  
It has one rippled coulture in front of the seed openers but no trash wippers



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David G

01-20-2017 18:49:44




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
Close, but I think it is a little too much, works 4020 pretty hard with 12 row 7200 no till.



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centash

01-20-2017 18:01:45




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to Jo-ker, 01-20-2017 17:49:39  
Don't think so.....Sandy soil would make it even harder to pull. I think you will need 100 hp minimum. Ben



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2 9600

01-22-2017 09:32:15




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 Re: Can my Ford 7710 4wd pull this? in reply to centash, 01-20-2017 18:01:45  
if its a front fold I would not. run a7200 ff with fert and a tw20 2wd full front weights and duals has its hands full folded up and I try to run fert and seed low to transport



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