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HELP, engine won't start

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jpric1327

01-15-2017 07:34:29




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Have a 1964 ford 2000, was running one day and it quit. Now will not start or try to start, it just turns over but will not start. Have had several mechanics work on it and all leave scratching their heads.




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showcrop

01-17-2017 06:36:50




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
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With an updraft carburetor it is normal for gas to run out of the carb if the engine does not start after being cranked for a few seconds. Dry plugs means not enough gas, perhaps due to not enough choke. Crank for one rotation then pull choke. keep choke pulled for four revolutions, then take a spark plug reading.



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David G

01-15-2017 11:11:35




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
I would restate what old said.

Good suction will indicate that the valves are in time and camshaft is intact.

Good spark will make ignition if not flooded

Just need fuel then.



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jpric1327

01-15-2017 10:12:28




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
Going to try pouring a little fuel into each cylinder and try to start it then



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jpric1327

01-15-2017 10:10:46




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
Also sprayed starter fluid in it and it did not try to fire



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jpric1327

01-15-2017 10:09:32




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
No it's gas. It's pumping to the carb, but like I said I pull a plug and it's dry. But it is flooding in the carb. The breather is off and gas is running out of the carb.



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jpric1327

01-15-2017 09:57:23




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
yes to all



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old

01-15-2017 10:13:07




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 09:57:23  
Have you held your hand over the air intake of the carb and gotten a real good suction and you hand gets covered with gas?? Whats it do if you spray starting fluid in as you try to start it?? And or put a teaspoon of gas in the cylinders and try to start it



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jpric1327

01-15-2017 09:16:15




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
Is there any way the intake is blocked



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Ultradog MN

01-15-2017 10:04:07




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 09:16:15  
No way for us to tell from here. Take the air tube off the carb and see.
A plugged air cleaner/intake would generally cause it to run rich and or flood but you say the plugs are dry.
Try some starting fluid and see if it fires.
If it does you know you have spark. If it fires you likely have fuel problems.
Are you sure it's fuel draining out of the carb?
Could it be water?
Unscrew the nut on the bottom of the carb and catch what drains out and inspect. Let it drain for a minute. In a can. If clean gas you can pour it back into the tank.

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jpric1327

01-15-2017 09:12:51




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
Not sure if gas is getting to the cylinders. But gas is getting to the carb as it will flood and run out. But I pull one of the plugs and it appears dry



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jpric1327

01-15-2017 08:11:01




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
Not real sure if it's getting fuel to the cylinders but is getting fuel to the carb as it will flood and run out. Have pulled a plug but it's not wet. Is there any chance there is something blocking the intake?



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Ultradog MN

01-15-2017 08:10:24




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
It might just be flooded.
Take the spark plugs out and let the engine sit for a while. And take your plugs and heat the tips up with a propane torch - or on the kitchen stove if you have gas to burn any excess gas off if them.



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Sean in PA

01-15-2017 07:55:57




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
Sorry, I was typing my reply to your first post while you were posting your second one. Ignore everything I sad about the diesel engine.

If spark is good and timing it right, then look at the fuel delivery.



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Sean in PA

01-15-2017 07:54:11




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
Not much information to go on. Is it a gas or diesel engine?

If it is gas here are a few things that if they haven't checked they should:

1. Have they tested for a good strong blue/white spark that will jump at least a 1/4 inch gap to ground?
2. Have they checked the timing?
3. Have they checked to see if the fuel is getting to the carb?

If it's diesel:

1. Have they tried changing the fuel filter?

2. Have they tried bleeding the fuel lines all the way to the injectors?

For either gas or diesel:

1. Have they checked whether it just plain ran out of fuel?

2. Have they tried pull starting it if it's not an S-O-S transmission?

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jpric1327

01-15-2017 07:50:37




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:34:29  
Have all new parts on it. New carb, new ign., wires and plugs. It's getting good fire, timing is close but doesn't crank. Please Help!



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soundguy

01-16-2017 08:51:24




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:50:37  
turn gas off, remove plugs and clean them.

remove air hose from carb. key off.

at cranking is there good suction at carb mouth?

on each plug hole is there compression as tested with a compression tester, or a semi calibrated thumb?

If yes so far, turn on ignition and then check spark to each plug.

if good, then crank over with some start fluid sprayed at carb mouth when cranking. just a bit, be safe, protective eyeware, etc, standard safety disclaimers. any pops or tries to start?

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old

01-15-2017 09:48:06




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 Re: HELP, engine won't start in reply to jpric1327, 01-15-2017 07:50:37  
Good fire as in?? Is the spark a good blue white that jumps a 1/4 inch gap or more at the plug wires??

If you pull the carb drain plug will the gas flow fill a pint jar in under 3 minutes?? With the air cleaner tube off and you place you hand over the air intake on the carb do you get a good suction there and does you hand get cover with gas



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