HYDRAULIC OIL ????

shar1950 · Dec 6, 2016

I have just put the 1986 model 1910 tractor back together and need info on what is the needed hydraulic oil to fill both tranny and rear end drive.

One other question....
Can one remove 3 point hitch lift cylinder out after the unit is fully filed with oil?

Texasmark1 · Dec 9, 2016

On 86 I'd go with 124 A,B (JD 303 spec). On fill, seldom if ever are gearboxes completely full. Most have the over flow function a dipstick, or a
plug half way up the side of the housing. With this setup the gearbox cover comes off with the said parts and no problem loosing oil in the
process.

shar1950 · Dec 9, 2016

sorry for the dumb question ...but how do the 3 point lift receive it's oil ?

Texasmark1 · Dec 10, 2016

It gets pumped up there from the sump you are talking about by the hydraulic pump.

Larry NCKS · Dec 10, 2016

I think you mean 134????? I'd stay plumb away from JD 303 unless one can verify that it also meets or exceeds the 134 spec. Most 303 oils would not I don't think.

Texasmark1 · Dec 11, 2016

I mentioned 303 because every container of 134 I see these days also quotes 303. And every JD I ever had that didn't have a common sump with wet brakes and hydrostatic shifting and
all the fancy stuff called out 303. So why would the manufactured parts in the JD of similar application from similar sources (iron ore to name one) be any different in their requirements
than Ford?

Larry NCKS · Dec 11, 2016

Because they're not Ford! Each manufacturer has its own specs. 303 Fluid had its beginnings in the early to mid 60s JD with the 6 cylinder enmgines. Components such as O-rings used may require different additives.

I'm not saying all 303 fluid is bad, but the fact is that most generic farm store stuff doesn't "meet or exceed" modern specs and most will agree that it does harmful things such as cause leaks and damage components in units it's not designed for.

Larry NCKS · Dec 11, 2016

I should add that modern fluids are more apt to be backwards compatible than old fluids are to be forward compatible.

shar1950 · Dec 11, 2016

So...if I decide to use a modern hydraulic oil...I would need to know if the tranny case seals, are compatible with that oil. Also the pump should be able to handle most new oils too.

Larry NCKS · Dec 11, 2016

What you need to know is whether or not the oil meets or exceeds the specs your machine calls for. Do not . . . and I repeat . . . do not use any oil that says it will work for or is a replacement for or anything other than "meets or exceeds" your spec.

I would bet your 1986 tractor is specifying a 134 fluid. I'm not sure which suffix it would have by that year, but anything rated for 134 use on today's shelves should do it.

shar1950 · Dec 12, 2016

I just checked our local auto parts place and they can get some " AW-32 " tractor/hydraulic oil for me. Only problem being they do not have any info on it at all . Could I use this oil?

Larry NCKS · Dec 12, 2016

I don't know about the rest of the folks on here, but I have no clue what AW--32 is.

Once again I'll say it! Find something that "meets or exceeds" the spec your application calls for.

shar1950 · Dec 12, 2016

Just got info about a ESN-M2C134-D T/H OIL from different dealer in town and they say this oil meet all ford/New Holland tractors...

Is he full of s... t or is this ok to use...

sotxbill · Dec 12, 2016

(reply to post at 21:18:10 12/12/16)

Is that not what Larry has been saying for the last 10 posts??

Yes... any oil that meets or exceeds the M2C134d spec IS THE OIL SPECIFIED IN YOUR TRACTOR.

It can be bought from many different places for many different prices... but it must be M2C134 compatible.

aw32 may or maynot be compatible and the AW part of the spec mean that is has anti friction additives that will/may/might make your brakes and pto clutch slip and fail...

So back to what Larry said... ford/newholland "m2c134xxxxxxx" equivalent oil meets the required specs for use in your tractor. Look at the back of the container, and look for those specs...

If you can not do this.. buy your oil from a new holland dealer at the higher price.

shar1950 · Dec 12, 2016

Sorry about the confusion,,,I really don't have manual on this tractor and just wanted to see what everyone else is using. I will look at the M2C134 oil.I don't want to pay arm and leg...when you can get cheaper some where else.

Larry NCKS · Dec 12, 2016

(quoted from post at 22:31:56 12/12/16)
I don't want to pay arm and leg...when you can get cheaper some where else.

Sorry. But that's about as crazy as you can get. Lubrication is roughly 1% of the cost of owning any motorized vehicle or equipmwnt. Why do you want to skimp on something that could cause you big problems and cost you big bucks in the end?

shar1950 · Dec 12, 2016

so, what is 1% of a used old broken down 1987 tractor ,,, that I paid 600.00 .

Larry NCKS · Dec 13, 2016

(quoted from post at 00:23:06 12/13/16) so, what is 1% of a used old broken down 1987 tractor ,,, that I paid 600.00 .

This is my last comment on this. I don't think you even read my response! You may have paid $600.00 for it, but how much more is it going to cost you to own and operate it? And when did it change from an '86 to an '87?????

shar1950 · Dec 13, 2016

It is a 1986 ford/new Holland tractor.......thanks......done

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