Need Help with a Ford 2000 (Super Dexta)

I also posted this post in the Fordson thread. Would appreciate any help

I will try and make this as brief as possible, but want to give as accurate of picture as I can. I had a friend (85 years old) who passed away last year and his widow has given me his tractor. I am not a mechanic, but have driven tractors since I was 10 years old.

The tractor is a Ford 2000, with a Super Dexta badge on the front. I have searched every inch of the tractor and cannot find a serial number (checked every flange, etc.) but I do have these numbers found from various areas on the tractor
957E 7505C T2
M9H
Beneath the seat ? T6 N8H
957E 7005 T4 A4
957E 4012C
CKN13721G
I believe the tractor is a 63-64 Fordson Super Dexta rebadged as a Ford 2000 , built in England, shipped to the US.

I don't know much about the tractor, other than it ran 5 years ago... its a diesel... and I cant get it to crank ... cant even get fire to the starter. I purchased a new battery a couple weeks ago, hooked it up,went through the steps to start, no fire at all, the battery is good.

I will try and include a few pictures on this post (this is my first post) and any help that anyone can give, suggestions, etc., I would greatly appreciate. I am sure I need to buy some parts, but am not exactly sure of what I have, nor which way to go. Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated.
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NORMALLY... a super dex is cranked via the lever on the right side,, That lever not only pushed a button on the starter to turn it on, but also engaged the bendix. Did someone also add another starter switch/solenoid in addition to the factory one? I see a picture of an additional solenoid and I dont remember that one belonging on the tractor. Maybe someone put a different starter on it????
 

Sotxbill, thanks so much for the reply. Regarding your question, I am not sure. The previous owner, my friend, passed away. I put a new battery in it, and, assumed, as you have stated that the starter lever would start it. Nothing happened. I am not sure if I should replace the solenoid, etc., but, the starter lever didn't do anything. I know the tractor ran about 4 or 5 years ago, ran strong, not sure what all I should begin to replace, or what I should test to see what works and what doesn't. Any help/comments greatly appreciated. Thanks again
 
First touch that smaller terminal on the solenoid and to the grounded solenoid housing. It it clicks and or makes the starter turn or whill the switch
on the starter may not be working.

If it doesn't do anything that way jump from the battery post terminal on the solenoid to the small terminal on the solenoid and see if that works. If
either works it is the switch that is on top of the starter itself and you can further test it by jumping across the two terminals of the switch that
is mounted on top of the starter.
You can also jump from the positive post of the battery to the starter directly to see if the starter will turn at all. Just us one lead of a set of
jumper cables.

Zane
 
(quoted from post at 16:01:57 05/30/16) First touch that smaller terminal on the solenoid and to the grounded solenoid housing. It it clicks and or makes the starter turn or whill the switch
on the starter may not be working.

If it doesn't do anything that way jump from the battery post terminal on the solenoid to the small terminal on the solenoid and see if that works. If
either works it is the switch that is on top of the starter itself and you can further test it by jumping across the two terminals of the switch that
is mounted on top of the starter.
You can also jump from the positive post of the battery to the starter directly to see if the starter will turn at all. Just us one lead of a set of
jumper cables.

Zane

Zane, thanks so much, I will give this a try, the tractor is located about an hour and a half from me, but I plan to return next Saturday and give things another try. Your information will be very helpful for me. I once owned a Ford 8N and had similar issues and just sort of had to find my way, but eventually did. Thanks for the suggestion and help.
 
Ford2000Georgia

There are two things you need to check.
1. Will the starter motor run without engaging the pinion?

2. Will bypassing the solenoid with a jumper run the starter motor?

Make sure the fuel is off and have a fire extinguisher handy. Using heavy gloves short across the two large solenoid lugs with a piece of 6 gauge wire. It will spark. If the starter is good it should run without drawing maximum current because the pinion is not engaged and there is no load on the electric motor. If the motor does not spin you will need a brush, spring kit such is sold by YT. Unfortunately they are currently out of stock. If the armature or field windings are shot you will probably have to get a new starter.

These starters are made by Lucas, Prince of Darkness and even though I tested the starter in this manner, one of the old brush springs broke and caused a high current draw across the solenoid contacts fusing them and burning up a new beautifully made battery cable like a lit fuse. So you still need to make sure the brushes and springs are in good shape even if the starter motor spins.

Do not permanently connect the solenoid contacts until you are sure nothings shorted. You will not believe how quickly the battery cable will burn up when you are desperately trying to get the battery cable off.
 
(quoted from post at 16:55:13 05/30/16) Ford2000Georgia

There are two things you need to check.
1. Will the starter motor run without engaging the pinion?

2. Will bypassing the solenoid with a jumper run the starter motor?

Make sure the fuel is off and have a fire extinguisher handy. Using heavy gloves short across the two large solenoid lugs with a piece of 6 gauge wire. It will spark. If the starter is good it should run without drawing maximum current because the pinion is not engaged and there is no load on the electric motor. If the motor does not spin you will need a brush, spring kit such is sold by YT. Unfortunately they are currently out of stock. If the armature or field windings are shot you will probably have to get a new starter.

These starters are made by Lucas, Prince of Darkness and even though I tested the starter in this manner, one of the old brush springs broke and caused a high current draw across the solenoid contacts fusing them and burning up a new beautifully made battery cable like a lit fuse. So you still need to make sure the brushes and springs are in good shape even if the starter motor spins.

Do not permanently connect the solenoid contacts until you are sure nothings shorted. You will not believe how quickly the battery cable will burn up when you are desperately trying to get the battery cable off.

Thank you Deutz, I appreciate the info, I will try things again next Saturday when I go back down, much appreciated.
 
Ford2000Georgia,

Majorman on the Fordson forum is probably right, but you have to ask why is the ring terminal disconnected. In my case the short was intermittent. I had thought the cable felt unusually warm several times when it started. It waited until I had hard wired the connections to completely go. It may take more time, but if you have the skills check the brush and spring assembly to avoid the exciting couple of minutes I had and the resulting fried wiring.

My starter will need a set of brushes and springs. Luckily the armature and field windings are ok and I had a parts tractor with a good starter to sub. There are some aftermarket starters that will fit this and they have a solenoid mounted on the starter. Look up the starter for a Case 990 or David Brown 990. I think besides having the right physical dimensions, the pinion has to have 11 teeth and CW rotation. You will have to wire it differently since they don't need the pinion engaging rod and firewall mounted solenoid. Just depends on whether you want to keep everything original.
 
Where in ga is the tractor located? I am just south of Atl. Our Dexta start lever would bind most of the time and I just about had to stand on it to start it. I was too young to be concerned about serial number locations, but I did put quite a few hours on it the 4 years we owned it.
 
Good Looking ole Super Dexta. Any updates on your progress? I love to hear them run and esp under load when the governor opens up for more juice. brownsmule in NC
 
If you decide to haul it to a tractor mechanic, you might call Gary or Rudy Brown, Perry, GA 478 954-1283 or 478 956-3169. They specialize in Ford tractor repairs and also sell used parts. Good luck with your tractor.
 
Thanks for all the help guys... no progress yet, haven't had a chance to get back down and spend some time on it, am hoping to in a couple of weeks. I will be sure the keep you all posted. You all have given me some great information, I truly appreciate it.
 

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