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donharmon · Feb 16, 2016

Rebuilt engine 134 completely with new gaskets seals, block, rings main bearings, and the works but cannot get rear main to stop leaking?? Am I missing something??

michford · Feb 16, 2016

What type of seals did you use on the rear main? I used neoprene lip seal on the rear journal and the Victor Reinz sealant in a tube instead
of the wedge seals and have no leaks two years after the rebuild of my 860.

Sixty7camaro · Feb 17, 2016

Did you use the Victor Reinz sealant in place of the paper strips or in addition to the strips?

michford · Feb 17, 2016

The Victor Reinz was used in place of the paper wedge seals.

donharmon · Feb 17, 2016

Used the black wedge vees with the wire pin along with the rubber seals I guess u would call them?? Bought them at yesterday tractor so maybe wont be the ones I want??

donharmon · Feb 17, 2016

Didn't get any paper strips with seals, just the above, stumped at present ,have the engine hanging lower on the back end to see if any seeps or leaks, none at present

donharmon · Feb 17, 2016

Ordered a tube today, just put it on the block side of the bearing or what??

michford · Feb 18, 2016

Fill the grooves in the sides of the rear main cap completely with the Victor Reinz sealant. I"ll post a picture later today of my rear main. I happen to have the oil pan off my tractor to fix a broken oil pump drive shaft. It is a little challenging to squeeze the sealant into the bottom of the groove, but the tube comes with a long applicator. Follow the directions and get the surfaces clean before using the sealant.

donharmon · Feb 18, 2016

Ok,.Thnks,will check later

donharmon · Feb 18, 2016

By the way,it seems to be coming from around the center of the crank seal and I put new seals in it??New seals and new graphite rope it looks like??

Sixty7camaro · Feb 18, 2016

So did you just pour the sealant into the area where the wedges normally would fit? My motor is ready to be installed and I would like to do this before reassembly. Where did you get the product? Thanks!

michford · Feb 18, 2016

Here is a picture of the rear main. I filled the wedge seal slots entirely with the Victor Reinz sealant. It squirted thru the gap along the cap. Also pictured is the tube of sealant. No more rear main leak! I also did not use a rope seal on the rear crank journal, I also used the two piece round seal and staggered the split.

donharmon · Feb 19, 2016

[Thnks a bunch,I don't seem to be leaking around the main block, on the side ,just where the crank shaft and the half moon seal is?? Cant use this in that spot tho,right??

michford · Feb 19, 2016

You are correct, the sealant is only for use in the wedge grooves.

michford · Feb 19, 2016

I installed the rear main with rubber seals, not the rope seal, and empty wedge seal grooves. I torqued the rear main bolts to spec, then used the tube of sealant with the tip and squeezed the sealant in to the grooves.

donharmon · Feb 20, 2016

Well, as I said,doesnt seem to be any leak along the sides or bottom,just around the crankshaft seals?? I did put new seals along with new rope in bearing caps and on block but cant get the leak to stop??

michford · Feb 20, 2016

Did you install the rope seal per the shop manual? Is it possible that the rope seal has a gap between the ends?

donharmon · Feb 20, 2016

[I did and all looks ok??

showcrop · Feb 22, 2016

(quoted from post at 19:02:54 02/18/16) Here is a picture of the rear main. I filled the wedge seal slots entirely with the Victor Reinz sealant. It squirted thru the gap along the cap. Also pictured is the tube of sealant. No more rear main leak! I also did not use a rope seal on the rear crank journal, I also used the two piece round seal and staggered the split.

Michford, Last engine I did I used the V-R two piece neoprene but on the sides I use the rubber seals with pins, and had tough time getting the pins in. I have been panning to use the sealant next time, and next time is here. I am surprised to see the sealant pushing out on the sides in your pic. Do you squeeze it in with the block still loose then tighten the block down after squeezing the groove full?

donharmon · Feb 22, 2016

I am not sure on what u mean when u staggered the seals, one on top and one on bottom, right which is what I have??

michford · Feb 23, 2016

I'm going on memory here, but I'm pretty sure the instructions on the sealant said not to slide the sealed components together. I installed the rear main and torqued the bolts, then squeezed the sealant in place. There is a slight gap in the sides of the rear cap and the block, and that is why you see sealant that squirted out and why there is more sealant that squirted out at the end of the cap versus the end of the cap in the block.

michford · Feb 23, 2016

Hi Don, the staggered seals I mentioned pertain to the round seal for the crank journal in the rear main. Each seal is a half round. Some folks install them with the ends flush with the block, and some folks install them with with one half round rotated so one end sticks out approx. 3/8 of an inch and the other is recessed the same. The staggered seal installation cannot be done with a rope seal, it can only be done with the lip style seal.

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