Troubleshooting 861 PTO

Jeepnut77 · Jul 29, 2015

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Jeepnut77 · Jul 29, 2015

New to the forum and have been doing some searching for an old Ford to finish mow with...I have looked at a few but this one popped up yesterday https://wichita.craigslist.org/grd/5145774299.html

Diesel, he says 3 pt works great runs great but PTO has not worked for the entire 6 months they owned it. I know it is an 861 and not an 860 like the ad says. Seems to be a good buy, except for the PTO issue.

Told me on the phone someone looked at it a couple weeks ago and said it was out of adjustment. He wasn't sure what this meant. I am going to go look at this weekend, and want to know that I am getting into such as an expensive dual clutch replacement.

Also I know nothing about these diesel engines or their problems and durability or maintenance issues.

Any advice would be most appreciated.

Ultradog MN · Jul 29, 2015

I would say that is not an 861.
The 861 has to have the 5 speed
transmission to have live PTO but I think
that one is a 4 sp.
The diesels are good and are not nearly as
thirsty as the gasses were.
If you go look at it Insist that the
engine be cold when you get there.
It's summer of course so no real cold
starts but to don't want it warmed and
ready.
Those rear tires are nothing to brag
about.
Price is right though if it runs good.
IMO, live pto is rather over rated.
You could do a lot of useful work with it
even with non live.

john in la · Jul 29, 2015

Yea I agree that looks like a 841 with a 4 speed.
No double clutch to worry about there.
Hard to tell but that red knob on the left might be a Sherman shifter.

No way of guessing what's wrong with the PTO until you open it up and we get a peek inside.

Only thing that slaps we right in the face is.......
"He has only owned tractor for 6 months."
Makes you wonder if he bought it broke;
Was planning on fixing it;
But found out it has real expensive problems;
So now he is playing dumb trying to pawn it off on someone else.

old · Jul 29, 2015

Looks like an 841that is painted wrong. PTO is likely to be a shifter problem which could add up to an easy fix of a big $$ fix

Jeepnut77 · Jul 29, 2015

Good catch on the 841....I didn't notice the shifter wasn't a 5 speed. I made the assumption based on him telling me it was supposed to have a live PTO.

He claims the PTO never worked and his dad bought a bigger tractor so they only used this to blade with.

Can anybody tell me what the worst case scenario to repair the PTO as far as cost for parts is?

I know the tires are trash but it doesn't matter, I am gonna put some turf tires on it so it doesn't tear up the lawn.

I have got a line on a Jubilee that is non-running for $1000. I jumped it and it cranked over. Overall its in good shape, they bought a bigger tractor 3 years ago and haven't started it since. I am relatively sure that it needs points, cap, rotor, plugs, wires, and a carb kit. It has one heluva mouse nest on the exhaust manifold so I know it hasn't run in a while.

Might be a better deal for what I am going to use it for and just keep looking for something bigger????

Ultradog MN · Jul 30, 2015

John,
Good eye on the red knob.
It looks like a Sherman overdrive which is the least useful of the 3.

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