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Troubleshooting 861 PTO

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07-29-2015 17:34:29

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Sorry about the double post.....don't know what went wrong

Mods can you delete the other thread
This post was edited by Jeepnut77 at 17:40:29 07/29/15 3 times.

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07-29-2015 21:36:21

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 Re: Troubleshooting 861 PTO in reply to Jeepnut77, 07-29-2015 17:34:29  
Good catch on the 841....I didn't notice the shifter wasn't a 5 speed. I made the assumption based on him telling me it was supposed to have a live PTO.
He claims the PTO never worked and his dad bought a bigger tractor so they only used this to blade with.

Can anybody tell me what the worst case scenario to repair the PTO as far as cost for parts is?

I know the tires are trash but it doesn't matter, I am gonna put some turf tires on it so it doesn't tear up the lawn.

I have got a line on a Jubilee that is non-running for $1000. I jumped it and it cranked over. Overall its in good shape, they bought a bigger tractor 3 years ago and haven't started it since. I am relatively sure that it needs points, cap, rotor, plugs, wires, and a carb kit. It has one heluva mouse nest on the exhaust manifold so I know it hasn't run in a while.
Might be a better deal for what I am going to use it for and just keep looking for something bigger????

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07-29-2015 17:36:59

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 Re: Troubleshooting 861 PTO in reply to Jeepnut77, 07-29-2015 17:34:29  
New to the forum and have been doing some searching for an old Ford to finish mow with...I have looked at a few but this one popped up yesterday https://wichita.craigslist.org/grd/5145774299.html

Diesel, he says 3 pt works great runs great but PTO has not worked for the entire 6 months they owned it. I know it is an 861 and not an 860 like the ad says. Seems to be a good buy, except for the PTO issue.

Told me on the phone someone looked at it a couple weeks ago and said it was out of adjustment. He wasn't sure what this meant. I am going to go look at this weekend, and want to know that I am getting into such as an expensive dual clutch replacement.

Also I know nothing about these diesel engines or their problems and durability or maintenance issues.

Any advice would be most appreciated.
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07-29-2015 19:43:28

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 Re: Troubleshooting 861 PTO in reply to Jeepnut77, 07-29-2015 17:36:59  
Looks like an 841that is painted wrong. PTO is likely to be a shifter problem which could add up to an easy fix of a big $$ fix

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John in La

07-29-2015 19:36:33

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 Re: Troubleshooting 861 PTO in reply to Jeepnut77, 07-29-2015 17:36:59  
Yea I agree that looks like a 841 with a 4 speed.
No double clutch to worry about there.
Hard to tell but that red knob on the left might be a Sherman shifter.

No way of guessing what's wrong with the PTO until you open it up and we get a peek inside.

Only thing that slaps we right in the face is.......
"He has only owned tractor for 6 months."
Makes you wonder if he bought it broke;
Was planning on fixing it;
But found out it has real expensive problems;
So now he is playing dumb trying to pawn it off on someone else.

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Ultradog MN

07-30-2015 03:54:10

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 Re: Troubleshooting 861 PTO in reply to John in La, 07-29-2015 19:36:33  
John, Good eye on the red knob.
It looks like a Sherman overdrive which is the least useful of the 3.

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07-29-2015 19:02:49

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 Re: Troubleshooting 861 PTO in reply to Jeepnut77, 07-29-2015 17:36:59  
I would say that is not an 861.
The 861 has to have the 5 speed transmission to have live PTO but I think that one is a 4 sp.
The diesels are good and are not nearly as thirsty as the gasses were.
If you go look at it Insist that the engine be cold when you get there.
It's summer of course so no real cold starts but to don't want it warmed and ready.
Those rear tires are nothing to brag about.
Price is right though if it runs good.
IMO, live pto is rather over rated.
You could do a lot of useful work with it even with non live.

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