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Ford 40303 Industrial Questions

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Norm43

03-02-2015 17:24:39




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I have these two tractors which I guess are called "Light Industrial" Both have 4 speed transmissions and Sherman high low auxiliaries. Both are stamped with 40303 and one is 40303DS. This one says 4000 Industrial on the hood with Diesel under that. The motor is now a gas 172. Here are assumptions I have made. Are they correct?

1. The two serial numbers are 164598 and 167665 so depending on which reference I use they are either 1962 or 1963 year models.
2. Both should have egg crate grills.
3. Both should be Buff over red (red orange). One is that way now the other is blue all over but I can see buff under the blue.
4.The hood should NOT be embossed with the Ford logo.
5. Rear tires are both 24" but could also be the 28" loop rim and still be factory.
6. Front tires should be 6.50x16.
7. The medallion should be the one with "industrial" on it.

Originally I planned to rebuild into one gas motor unit. Now I have acquired a 801 series donor tractor with a 172 Diesel so now I have the parts to restore both of these industrial's.

Another question. What tin is interchangeable? Will 801 work OK?

Thanks in advance ... Norm43

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TONY JACOBS

03-02-2015 22:47:00




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 Re: Ford 40303 Industrial Questions in reply to Norm43, 03-02-2015 17:24:39  
Hello Norm , No guess work about it both are Light Duty Industrials . Answers to your questions as follows 1) BOTH are early 1962 tractors what ever reference says they could be 1963 IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG . There is NO serial number for late 1962(blue and buff ones)to end of production Dec. 1965 that high . 2)Yes 3)Yes 4)Correct 5)Yes , 24" was more common because of Floatation with backhoes and heavy rear equipment . 6)Yes , but most were 7.50x16 8 or 10 ply tires again because of heavy duty loaders weight carrying capacity . 7)Yes 1962 had the Industrial Emblem but the 1960's and the early 1961's did not . It did not come out in production until Sept./Oct. 1961 . If you have a donor tractor with a 172 Diesel ENGINE it should a 1962 because it was the first year to have the oil filter mounting cast into the block and not the block with the adapter like the 1960 and 1961 ENGINES had . 801 sheet metal will work because it was designed for the egg crate grille which has different length mounting studs on the dog legs for the egg crate grille versus 600/800 or 601/2000 or later 4000 sheet metal . Thanks Tony

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Norm43

03-05-2015 14:36:50




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 Re: Ford 40303 Industrial Questions in reply to TONY JACOBS, 03-02-2015 22:47:00  
Tony ... just checked the serial number of my 871D and it turns out to be a first year, 1957 model. Is this a big problem for using this engine or just a small deal?

Thanks ... Norm



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Sean in PA

03-16-2015 04:50:47




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 Re: Ford 40303 Industrial Questions in reply to Norm43, 03-05-2015 14:36:50  

Norm43 said: (quoted from post at 18:36:50 03/05/15) Tony ... just checked the serial number of my 871D and it turns out to be a first year, 1957 model. Is this a big problem for using this engine or just a small deal?

Thanks ... Norm


Norm,
Ford reset the serial numbers when they came out with a new series, and the hundred series were made partway into 1957 and the '01 series came out part way through 1957, so you need to be careful what you're looking at when you look up serial numbers and try to match them to years. My guess is that the serial number on your 871D (which was made in 1959 or later because of the S-O-S) is in the range that would also have been on a hundred series serial number that was made in 1957.

For the hundred series, 1957 serial numbers were 116368 & up.
For the '01 series, a serial number that high would have been made in 1960, so i am betting that your 871D is a 1960 tractor.
This post was edited by Sean in PA at 04:52:22 03/16/15 2 times.

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TONY JACOBS

03-15-2015 17:34:24




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 Re: Ford 40303 Industrial Questions in reply to Norm43, 03-05-2015 14:36:50  
Hello Norm , Absolutely IMPOSSIBLE , First year of the 801 series was 1957 , First year of 801 Diesel was 1958 , and First year of Select-O-Speed was 1959 , you need to find a new source of reference because what ever you are using is no good . Thanks Tony



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Norm43

03-03-2015 05:26:08




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 Re: Ford 40303 Industrial Questions in reply to TONY JACOBS, 03-02-2015 22:47:00  
Thank you Tony. These details help a lot.

Just a note ... one of these tractors has 24" cast iron centers similar to the 28" ones being discussed right now on this forum. One rim is bad. I have not been able to find a replacement. This is holding me up on starting on the rehab of this tractor.



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TONY JACOBS

03-15-2015 17:38:10




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 Re: Ford 40303 Industrial Questions in reply to Norm43, 03-03-2015 05:26:08  
Hello Norm , Call Walt's Tractor Parts in Mexico, Mo. ask for Brian tell him I told you to call . Thanks Tony



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