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correct color ford 950?

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1955 950

02-13-2015 16:54:25




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There seems to be alot of confusion on the gray on these tractors. Does this look rite. Here is my 1955 950




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64frd4000ind

02-16-2015 07:48:28




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to 1955 950, 02-13-2015 16:54:25  
We go to the 'Antique Power Days' here in Salem, IL every year, and they line up 'like' tractors in rows, so that you can go to one area to look at what you like and talk to the folks who own them.

Every year there will be a dozen or so Fords lined up, all with slightly different shades of red/grey and each person saying theirs is 'correct' and using 'factory codes'... It can and does cause arguments and even fights...

IMHO as long as you are happy with how it turned out, and its close enough to what 'should' have been original for your taste, then its perfect, especially for a tractor thats 50+ years old.

And when you remember that they can't use the same pigments or even paint base they did in the 50's because of EPA regulations... so no matter how close it is, it never would be the same...

Something else to know about the digital paint readers, you can go to two different Sherman Williams(Insert your paint store here, doesn't matter) and if they have different overhead lighting, or even a light bulb out near the machine, then you will end up with two different paint colors. And if they read the chip 2 or 3 times its likely to come up a bit different each time.

Also, air alone will change a paint color of the years, not so much as the other elements, but just being open to air in general will not necessarily make it fade, but will change the colors, remember there were no 'clear coats' back when our tractors were made to seal in the paint color.

I have even seen a pink case tractor, donated to the relay for life (breast cancer) cause, and it looked awesome, different, but awesome.

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TONY JACOBS

02-16-2015 15:28:24




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to 64frd4000ind, 02-16-2015 07:48:28  
Hello Keith , You are correct about the pigments being different I forgot all about the removal of lead from paint pigments alone . Thanks Tony



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TONY JACOBS

02-16-2015 06:24:53




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to 1955 950, 02-13-2015 16:54:25  
There is no confusion about the colors on these or any other FORD tractors there is only one color for them , the problem is that NO ONE bothers to get the CORRECT PAINT CODES for them from FORD and instead mixes the wrong color and then says their color is correct when it is not . Pictures do not show the true color but it still looks wrong , it does look like 01 series colors as others have said . 100 series ORIGINAL FORD PAINT CODES are as follows M-2822-SE for the VERMILION COLOR and M-2888-SE for the GRAY COLOR , NAPA , PPG , SHERWIM-WILLIAMS , DITZLER should all be able to CROSS FORD CODES TO GET formula mixes TO MAKE THE PAINT . Thanks Tony

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TONY JACOBS

02-16-2015 06:34:42




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to TONY JACOBS, 02-16-2015 06:24:53  
M-2888-SE is the 9N-2N GRAY COLOR , M-13243 is the CORRECT GRAY COLOR for the 100 series tractors . M1J-956-SE2 is the RED COLOR for the 01 series tractors , M1J-957-SE2 is the GRAY COLOR for the 01 series tractors . Thanks Tony



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1955 950

02-16-2015 13:43:19




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to TONY JACOBS, 02-16-2015 06:34:42  
So which is it tony you gave me 2 different numbers for the 100 series?



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showcrop

02-16-2015 09:41:21




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to TONY JACOBS, 02-16-2015 06:34:42  
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Well, since the shade varied by paint batch, some how we need a whole batch of different codes so that we can narrow it down to the month that the tractor that we drove as a kid was manufactured on. THEN we need to find a way to get the paint guy at the paint jobber to agree to do it by code instead of using his high tech digital reader. I'm happy to have my '57 close to medium factory gray for March 1957, as matched from the underside of the hood and not 58 to 63 gray or 64 on light gray. The gray of my '59 looks very nice contrasting against the medium gray of my '57, instead of appearing the same.

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Larry NCKS

02-14-2015 05:02:48




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to 1955 950, 02-13-2015 16:54:25  
Nice looking tractor. However, unless it's a quirk of photography, the red appears to be the vermillion red of the 01 series. The red should be the color of Kirk's or all Fords from the 8N through the 00 series.



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1955 950

02-14-2015 08:28:39




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to Larry NCKS, 02-14-2015 05:02:48  
Is the vermillon red your talking about the orange red of x01 series. It is not that orange red color.



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02-14-2015 10:41:32




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to 1955 950, 02-14-2015 08:28:39  
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Your red does look a little towards the Orange red of the XX1s. The earlier red is the shade usually referred to as vermillion.



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1955 950

02-14-2015 11:09:44




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to showcrop, 02-14-2015 10:41:32  
The picture looks that way but its not the orange red.



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02-14-2015 14:57:08




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to 1955 950, 02-14-2015 11:09:44  
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Didn't say it was .......... Said "a little towards it".



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02-14-2015 04:17:51




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to 1955 950, 02-13-2015 16:54:25  
You see a lot of them painted the later lighter gray. Like Kirk says, 8N up through the X00s are all the medium gray. it changed in 58. The best way to get a good match to original is digitally by taking the lower dash to the automotive paint store and have them digitally analyze the unmolested paint from the inside of the piece.



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Kirk-NJ

02-14-2015 01:34:59




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to 1955 950, 02-13-2015 16:54:25  
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Here's a shot of my working 950 I used ford paint on the tin. It's basically the same as the 8n. I believe the later 01 series used the liker gray. The tractor in your photo looks fine. You can go to a tractor show and there will be 10 8n's there all with "correct" color and there will be 10 different shades of grey.

Kirk

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steve19438

02-14-2015 04:12:31




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to Kirk-NJ, 02-14-2015 01:34:59  
like them "dualies".

is the vert. exhaust stack the same as should be on my 2000 offset?

thanks.



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Kirk-NJ

02-14-2015 05:47:13




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to steve19438, 02-14-2015 04:12:31  
Basically, yes. I have seen both vertical and underslung exhausts on the 541 and 2000 offsets. Pipe size on my 950 is different for the 172 to your 134 engine in the offset.

Kirk



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64frd4000ind

02-13-2015 17:01:05




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 Re: correct color ford 950? in reply to 1955 950, 02-13-2015 16:54:25  
Dunno if its correct, but it looks awesome to me. Can't wait to get mine back together.



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