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Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best?

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FordManiac

12-08-2014 10:54:54




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Getting ready to start this rebuild and thinking I want to do sleeves vs overbore. Thoughts on this but also who makes the best kits? Ford / NH probably no longer offers them so trying to determine who to go with.
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showcrop

12-09-2014 05:50:48




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to FordManiac, 12-08-2014 10:54:54  
My own experience which has been reinforced a lot by what I read here is that your best bet is to choose your machine shop, and then use their expertise and connections. I think that it starts with the crank. They will tell you what needs to be done and what size bearings to get. They also know where to get the right sized pistons rings valves etc. When I had 172 rebuilt some years back they used Chevy valves to overcome the problem of the seats being severely recessed.

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MikeJM

12-09-2014 04:17:28




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to FordManiac, 12-08-2014 10:54:54  
I overhauled a 2000 gas for a friend couple of years ago. The local machine shop will not overbore a ford unless you insist and he'll tell you flat out he doesn't want to hear any whining if if puts water into the pan shortly after starting it. He sleeves them back to standard. He also pressure tests all the blocks we works on, he got burned once on a 4 cylinder that had a crack in the main oil galley into the cooling system.

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Bern

12-08-2014 15:09:01




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to FordManiac, 12-08-2014 10:54:54  
I agree with sleeving. Having said that, I would much prefer installing a thick wall sleeve and boring that instead of boring for a thin wall, pre-sized sleeve. Too much chance for that thin-wall sleeve to distort when pressed into the bore.



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FordManiac

12-08-2014 15:30:31




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to Bern, 12-08-2014 15:09:01  
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Ok that makes sense to me. Ok so now who makes the thicker sleeves? I'm sure it's not Tisco right?



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Bern

12-08-2014 16:46:23




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to FordManiac, 12-08-2014 15:30:31  
I don't know who makes them - my local machine shop sourced them. I would imagine that most pre-made kits will contain thin-wall sleeves.

It will cost more for the thick-wall sleeve option, primarily because it has to be bored and honed twice for each hole. However, I feel it's money well spent.



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Ultradog MN

12-08-2014 14:21:55




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to FordManiac, 12-08-2014 10:54:54  
Is this a gasser or a diesel?
If it's a gasser I probably wouldn't spend the $ for sleeves. Just bore oversize. I've never heard of them having the problems with cavitation like the diesels did.
If a diesel I would surely sleeve it.



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dmbinva

12-08-2014 19:37:12




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to Ultradog MN, 12-08-2014 14:21:55  
I bored out a gas 3000 and hit a sand casting on the 3rd hole, ended up sleeving all three back to standard cost me $900 including the piston kit. My shop guy sourced the sleeves



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FordManiac

12-08-2014 14:23:58




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to Ultradog MN, 12-08-2014 14:21:55  
Yes its a diesel which is why I thought sleeves. Now i'm certain. :)

thanks guys



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RickB

12-08-2014 13:56:30




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to FordManiac, 12-08-2014 10:54:54  
I don't recall having problems with engine kits from TISCO, either as a buyer or as a dealership parts guy.



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FordManiac

12-08-2014 13:58:23




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to RickB, 12-08-2014 13:56:30  
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Ok this will probably be the route I go then as they are easy to find. Just wanted to be sure. Thanks



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tractorguy2

12-08-2014 11:15:52




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to FordManiac, 12-08-2014 10:54:54  
if it is sleeveless it would be cheaper to bore it and used over sized pistons than to bore it out and then buy sleeves.

I doubt you will ever wear it out again.



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FordManiac

12-08-2014 11:17:27




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to tractorguy2, 12-08-2014 11:15:52  
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I agree but just like the idea of sleeves. Looking at price doesn't really seem a huge difference anyways just not sure who makes the better kits. I hear some have bad gaskets etc. Thanks for your input.



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Fordfarmer

12-08-2014 12:19:20




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 Re: Rebuilding Ford 4000 engine (201) Which kit best? in reply to FordManiac, 12-08-2014 11:17:27  
When I rebuilt my 4600, I found some NOS sleeves and pistons on ebay for considerably less than from a NH or aftermarket dealer. The gaskets, bearings and such I got from NH or CarQuest. You -definitely- want to use sleeves. Otherwise, you'll likely be back in there before long due to cavitation holes in the cylinder wall.



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