Cabs for Hundred Series - Look what the cat dragged in

Lanexa Speedway · Sep 22, 2014

While I attended a wedding out of town this weekend, I scouted out a machine on CL, and my brother went and snagged it. It's a 641 gasser, power steering, Ford loader, HD front end, pie weights

, and some kind of funky cab on it. Appears to be all original, built this way from the factory.

Question is about the cab. Do any of y'all recognize this thing? It's gonna come off of the tractor, but my brother says it's actually in good shape, and very restorable. See pictures below.

Pie weights have a home on my 641, but the loader is coming off soon in case anyone's interested.

Thanks,
Kevin

Lanexa Speedway · Sep 22, 2014

So.....I go and post the question up here, and my brother emails with this picture and says:
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[b:96c3522576]"...upon further review, it appears that the cab was adapted from a combine or something. How does this look now?"[/b:96c3522576][/i:96c3522576]

I think it looks much better now.

Kevin

Brendon Warren · Sep 22, 2014

Looks like it could be a Curtis cab. Decent looking
tractor with or without it.

Ultradog MN · Sep 22, 2014

I think you have a disease.
I'm hoping it's contagious.
Nice score.

Lanexa Speedway · Sep 22, 2014

(quoted from post at 21:30:26 09/22/14) I think you have a disease.
I'm hoping it's contagious.
Nice score.

LOL, yeah, it's kind of gotten out of hand around here. Got to get my restoration done and chill out for a while. Looking like a tractor shop around here.

Don't know if my brother is gonna keep this machine or not. Maybe a "backup tractor" for Dad's 860.....which is an all-original survivor/worker. I do know that if I wasn't so heavily invested (time and $$$) into my 641, I'd restore this one in a heartbeat.

Just couldn't pass up a good deal.

Thanks,
Kevin

Bern · Sep 22, 2014

I agree about the cab. There's no way the factory would have mounted a cab to the fender like that, even if it wasn't meant to be a ROPS.

Shetland Sheepdog · Sep 23, 2014

I agree that it seems to be a Curtis cab. Prolly had vinyl curtains originally. One step up from a "Heat Houser", as it had a solid windshield that would accept a windshield wiper.
Dave

Lanexa Speedway · Sep 23, 2014

Bonus pictures:

Lanexa Speedway · Sep 23, 2014

One more.....look closely:

Brendon Warren · Sep 23, 2014

Heavy duty front end? My 661 needs that cutout for
the p/s. It would things easier.

Lanexa Speedway · Sep 23, 2014

(quoted from post at 21:58:00 09/23/14) Heavy duty front end? My 661 needs that cutout for
the p/s. It would things easier.

Yes, it has a factory HD front end. I haven't seen it personally yet, but my brother thinks that cutout for the P/S is factory. I don't know how you could get access without it.

Royse · Sep 23, 2014

Factory power steering and a Ford loader. I'd put it to work!
Paint it later if you want to. Problem I have doing that is I can't
seem to live without my loader tractor long enough to make it
look good. Obviously, I just need to buy another loader tractor!

Brendon Warren · Sep 23, 2014

Mine doesn't have it so its a trick. First one I've
seen with that notch though.

Tim Daley(MI) · Sep 24, 2014

First of all, no 'FACTORY' tractor ever came with a loader nor a cab -those were dealer options as were lighting kits and other whistles and bells like cigarette lighters, stabilizer bars, and umbrellas. cab looks like the SteelCraft unit I have for my 9N minus canvas curtains.

Tim 'PloughNman' Daley(MI)

NNP · Sep 24, 2014

dang nice tractor

While I usually don't like loaders on old, old tractors........
PS, heavy front end, very nice loader design, proper size bucket for a little tractor, bucket curl, even a filter......
I'd leave that one be,
even to the point of buying another tractor if need be to have one without a loader.

I bought a 650 with a loader with all intentions of taking it off.(I had loader tractors)
After dropping off the silly huge bucket that was on it,
and a little this and that to mount a 3-point hitch 2" receiver assembly up there.....
it is my lift anything onto a trailer tool.
Wouldn't part with it....

Lanexa Speedway · Sep 25, 2014

(quoted from post at 08:50:27 09/24/14) dang nice tractor

While I usually don't like loaders on old, old tractors........
PS, heavy front end, very nice loader design, proper size bucket for a little tractor, bucket curl, even a filter......
I'd leave that one be,
even to the point of buying another tractor if need be to have one without a loader.

I bought a 650 with a loader with all intentions of taking it off.(I had loader tractors)
After dropping off the silly huge bucket that was on it,
and a little this and that to mount a 3-point hitch 2" receiver assembly up there.....
it is my lift anything onto a trailer tool.
Wouldn't part with it....

I agree completely. I am warming up to this thing, however, I am about burned out with my 641 restoration. Not going to do another....but am intrigued by this machine.

Have been thinking about finishing and then selling the restored 641 and buying this.....IF the money was right, and IF my brother thinks it is going to be a decent running machine. Two very significant "ifs" that would have to be satisfied. My original, and ongoing goal with my 641 was to put it to work once done.....and obviously I could do more work with a loader.

We'll see.

Tony Jacobs · Sep 25, 2014

Hello Kevin , First off it is a Northeast Cab made right here in Worcester ,Mass. about 30 mins. from me , second someone was to lazy to install the rear legs to the cab(which mount under the rear fenders) instead bolting them to the fenders which is why the cab sits the way it does . The Ford Loader is a series 703 model 19-97 which is a very good loader , welded seam on the sides of the loader arms puts it around 1959 or 1960 after that the welded seam was moved vertically . The heavy duty front end has nothing to do with power steering although most loader tractors were ordered with both . HD front end is a heavier center axle beam , pin and bushing set for the axle , heavier spindles and bearings . You will see the spindles flare out at the bottom of the housing compared to the standard ones on your 641 without the loader . The cutout in the hood is not stock for power steering , same guy also installed the cab . Thanks Tony

Tony Jacobs · Sep 25, 2014

Hello Tim , Your still thinking like an N-Series guy which of course you are but , Loaders and Ford Cabs(built between 1958-1962, both loader and loader/backhoe , I have had two so far and still have one left) became Factory installed in 1958 on the 1801 series Heavy Duty Industrial tractors and Backhoes became Factory installed in 1959 . Sherman Reversing transmissions were Factory installed on the 1801's in 1958 also two years before they became factory installed on the Ag tractors in late 1960 . They could however still be dealer installed in the dealer already had the tractor in stock without the options and the customer wanted that particular tractor . That's one reason why so many Loader/Backhoe tractors have three point hitch and pto that have never been used or a model number indicating three point and pto but not being on the tractor because it was removed by the selling dealer for a credit on the final price . Thanks Tony

Lanexa Speedway · Sep 25, 2014

(quoted from post at 18:31:14 09/25/14) Hello Kevin , First off it is a Northeast Cab made right here in Worcester ,Mass. about 30 mins. from me , second someone was to lazy to install the rear legs to the cab(which mount under the rear fenders) instead bolting them to the fenders which is why the cab sits the way it does . The Ford Loader is a series 703 model 19-97 which is a very good loader , welded seam on the sides of the loader arms puts it around 1959 or 1960 after that the welded seam was moved vertically . The heavy duty front end has nothing to do with power steering although most loader tractors were ordered with both . HD front end is a heavier center axle beam , pin and bushing set for the axle , heavier spindles and bearings . You will see the spindles flare out at the bottom of the housing compared to the standard ones on your 641 without the loader . The cutout in the hood is not stock for power steering , same guy also installed the cab . Thanks Tony

Thanks Tony - great info as always.

Funny how someone put that cab on there. But it's off the tractor now, likely heading for the scrap metal pile.

Was talking to my brother tonight. He got it running very easily. Tank was already very clean, so he just rebuilt the carb, checked spark, and it cranked right up, even on 6V. He cranked it while on the phone and I was amazed how easy it started. Said it poofed a tiny bit of smoke initially, but cleared up and sounds great. 50lbs of oil pressure, and everything works! Loader does as it should, etc (although we won't trust any of those hoses).

Gonna snag an Eaton pump maybe from the local boneyard, and see if we can get the P/S working. Any tips on what pumps to look for? Car, truck, or special tractor? Seems that the base pump wouldn't be different, only the canister? My brother said the pump on the machine is locked up good and tight.

Thanks again,
Kevin

Tony Jacobs · Sep 25, 2014

Hello Kevin , Glad to help . As for the Eaton pump 1957-1965 Cars or Trucks up to 1 ton were the same base pump just use your tractor canister and you will be all set , cars , trucks and tractors(except Heavy Duty Industrials)all used the 800 lbs relief valves(HD Industrials used 1100 & 1300 lb relief valves) Thanks Tony

Lanexa Speedway · Sep 26, 2014

(quoted from post at 00:29:08 09/26/14) Hello Kevin , Glad to help . As for the Eaton pump 1957-1965 Cars or Trucks up to 1 ton were the same base pump just use your tractor canister and you will be all set , cars , trucks and tractors(except Heavy Duty Industrials)all used the 800 lbs relief valves(HD Industrials used 1100 & 1300 lb relief valves) Thanks Tony

Fantastic, thanks again for the info. There's an old car boneyard close by and when I went 12V generator picking last February, I saw quite a few Eaton pumps in '57-65 Fords.....guess I need to head back there.

Kevin

Lanexa Speedway · Oct 8, 2014

Going to mention for my brother...

He said if anyone's interested in that cab, make an offer, including shipping from ZIP code 15521. Better yet, if you are in the vicinity of Alum Bank, Pennsylvania, picking it up would be better (and cheaper). If you need it shipped, he'll try to break it down and get it packaged as small and damage-resistant as possible.

My email is krleppert attt gmail dottt com if there is any interest.

Thanks,
Kevin

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