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PaulKin IL

09-22-2012 19:58:52




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Anyone know the oil capacity of a '72 Ford 3000 with a gas engine? The operators manual says 8 qts. but when I put that much in it shows way over full on the dipstick.




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Texasmark1

09-25-2012 05:47:04




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to PaulKin IL, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
Measure it soon after you shut the engine down. The oil filter drains back into the crank case and upon checking cold, like first thing in the morning before you crank, it will read over full. BTDT

Mark



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Texasmark1

09-25-2012 05:52:24




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to Texasmark1, 09-25-2012 05:47:04  
Another thought: I had 2 ea 3000's once. One had a cartridge which was very large and the other a spin on that used a Motorcraft FL-1A. The volume of the spin on was much smaller than the cartridge type. I'm assuming that the manual was written for the early (mine was '65, cartridge a '66) model 3000. If you have the spin on, it could read 1 qt over full anyway.

Mark



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RodInNS

09-24-2012 16:46:49




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to PaulKin IL, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
As long as it's in the 6-9 qt range and the stick shows full I wouldn't get too twisted about it.

Rod



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flyingace

09-23-2012 18:17:21




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to PaulKin IL, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
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Check the condition of the oil pan. If it's been dented in, the shape may only hold 6 quarts rather then 8.



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crazylocha

09-23-2012 15:34:16




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to PaulKin IL, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
Paul, I agree about the photo, since I am the nutter who broke the one P.O. had soldered together and used. Had to replace at that point, but was questioning proper level. Figured if on there good, then is OK.

Am using a ph8a on my gasser. Seems like last one and current are doin OK by the condition of oil. It was also what P.O. had on there when I took it off.

P.s. Thx for the pic UD
This post was edited by crazylocha at 15:34:55 09/23/12.

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freds

09-23-2012 07:30:03




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to PaulKin IL, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
The manual for my 3000 clearly states that the oil capacity is 8 qt with filter and 6 without under the specification sheet. However, this will overfill it by approximately one quart. The number on the back of the manual is SE 3225 86850 and I am pretty sure is was the one that came with the tractor.



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Ultradog MN

09-23-2012 06:49:26




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to PaulKin IL, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
You can check the length and markings of your dipstick against this photo.
I would not run it that over full.

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PaulKin IL

09-23-2012 08:10:23




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to Ultradog MN, 09-23-2012 06:49:26  
Thank you all for responding. Great idea posting the picture of the dipstick with the ruler UltraDog, mine does not look like that. It has 2 full marks one on each side of "FULL" so it looks like someone changed the dipstick in the last 40 years.

I'm sure part of the confusion on the capacity is the fact that they changed from the old cartridge type filter that took 2 quarts to fill to the spin-on filters. Also found it interesting that Fram's web site showed a PH16 filter for the gas engine and a PH8A for the diesel.

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Fordfarmer

09-24-2012 06:44:38




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to PaulKin IL, 09-23-2012 08:10:23  
Just to add to the confusion... some factory dipsticks have the two marks you refer to - my 7000 and 7600 both do. As you have a spin-on filter, it should take 7 quarts.



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Hogleg

09-23-2012 05:42:44




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to PaulKin IL, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
Mine says 7 quarts also but never have gotten it to take that much. I drain, change the filter, fill 6, then start it, then top it off, usually takes a bit more than a pint to hit the full mark. I hold onto the rest, check it often, but the darn thing never seems to need it. always on full. Was rebuilt by the dealer in 2004.
John



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Sean in PA

09-23-2012 05:35:09




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to Royse, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
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That's odd, because my owner's manual says 7 quarts with a filter change and 6 quarts without a filter change for all '65-'75 3 cylinder ag models, regardless of gas or diesel. It specifically lists the 2000, 2110, 3000, 4000, 4000SU and 4110, and the oil capacity is the same for all of them.



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Royse

09-22-2012 21:25:59




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to Keith Williams, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
I'm not up on the 3000's but I'd be a might worried about an inch and a half over full.

Is this a new to you tractor? Might have the wrong dipstick in it?



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old

09-22-2012 20:49:50




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to PaulKin IL, 09-22-2012 19:58:52  
Well did you start it??? The oil filter holds about 1 qt so till you start it up yep you get and over full reading. Just double checked the FO-31 manual just to be sure and it does say 8 also so that is not factoring in the filter



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PaulKin IL

09-22-2012 21:20:45




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 Re: Ford 3000 Question in reply to old, 09-22-2012 20:49:50  
Thanks old. Yes, I pulled the coil wire and turned it over to fill the oil filter, it has a spin-on so it holds less than a quart and that brought it down to about an inch and a half over the full line. Just worried about the end of the rods foaming up the oil.



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