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What is this? I'm guessing a 601

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Jim.UT

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I'm looking at an online ad for a tractor located about 175 miles away. The ad states clearly that the seller doesn't know what year it is. These are the only three photos in the ad.
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Grille says x00 or 601. Hood door & dash panel color says 801 or 901. Fenders say X01. Seat is not a Rest-O-Ride so that tells me not an 800 or 801. Hood seems to sit lower so that says 600/601. Can't see the gauges or the left brake cross shaft location. Hood sides have Ford script so that says X00. Solid hood nose would indicate X01. It's blue with the rest of the sheetmetal either gray or red so maybe the whole thing is a mutt.

The rear view should tell someone whether that is a 600/601 rear or an 800/801 rear. I still can't tell by just looking. Price is tempting @ $2500 obo. If there are pie weights to go with those mounting plates, I'm tempted even more.

Thanks for any insights you have that I have missed.
 
If I where to guess I would say it is an 801 series, the model hard to say since you can not see the transmission and that is the first thing I would ask about since it is is an SOS transmission I would not bother with it
 
Not an SOS - can see the top of the shift lever in 1st pic, clutch pedal in 3rd. Not sure, but I'm going to say it's a 4-speed. X01 fenders and X00 hood/grill like you mentioned. Not sure (again), but I'd say it's a 600/601 diffy. Hard to say, but it -might- be the bigger manifold of the X01 series. I'd guess a 641 with the hood from a hundred series.
 
Definitely a 600/601 rear end. I can tell by how far the attachment point for the top link rocker sticks out from the differential housing.
Looks like it had a loader at one time- I can see some sort of bracket under the front of the engine and the fact that it has pie weight mounting discs would also confirm this. Also looks like both of the steering drag links are bent.
Has a generator so probably still 6V.
Definitely not a SOS. Probably a 640/641.
 
hard to tell, but looks like the base of a 5-speed
shifter in pic 3.
clutch pedal is way up there too.
13.6's?
my vote is 860
 
Looks like it had a FEL on it at one time. Right steering arm looks bent and there is a bracket in front of the oil pan. Plus, what are the holes drilled in the right hood cowling for?

I'm just trying to learn more about these tractors.
 
I bought a non-running 640 last Saturday so I now have both 600 and 801 series tractors here. Top photo is a 600/601 rear end (blue) and lower photo is a 800/801 rear end (red). It is easy to see how the rocker mounting boss for the 600 sticks out away from the center housing and the 801 rocker mounting boss is sort of recessed into the center housing. The tractor in Jim's photos definitely has the 600/601 rear axle.
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...641 with X00 sheetmetal. I talked to the seller on the phone. After some coaching he found the serial and model numbers: 641 and 87278. The engine casting number is 310905 or 310906 (he wasn't sure).

The Ford script on the hood sides indicate the hood (at least) is off another tractor. Asking price is $2500 obo, but I'm out of money. Located in Rock Springs, Wyoming. Sounds like he'd listen to trades for motorcycles and/or guns. Anyone interested?
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Thanks, Alan. That gives me knowledge I've been wondering about for a while now. Excellent comparative photos!
 
If the paint on the sheetmetal were right, probably isn't, it be an 801. The 801's had the red stripe down the middle(dash and hood.The 601's were all red.
 
The size of it and the grill say 601. Get all the serial and casting numbers. Probably, like a lot of other tractors, she's made up of more than a couple!
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Hello Jim , Definately not an SOS Trans. you can see the clutch pedal in the pictures as well as no SOS Shifter and no Sherman shifter . As Alan said it is 600 / 601 rear axle and it is PRE 1960 because it does not have the later housing with the left to right horizontial rerinforcing ribs in it below the mount Alan is talking about . 600 / 800 Sheet Metal is also mounted low like a 600 / 601 , so it probably is a 1954 - 1957 640, 650, 660 tractor . The nose sheet metal for the emblem is 601 / 801 as are the fenders as you know and not 600 / 800 though . Thanks Tony
 
On these machines things are not always as they seem. This is a mutt tractor I bought this spring. It was advertised as a 641, but at first glance it looks like an 801. It has the 801 sheet metal and 13.6X28 tires. It started out life as a 641D and has had a replacement 134 gas engine in it now. It does have 12 volt with an alternator in it. I guess it probably had 12 volt as a diesel. It also has had a pair of axle extensions added. It runs well, but it needs rear tires. I gave $1,700.00 for it.

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