3000 Clutch/Axle PIn Job Complet

Been planing on clutching and doing some other maintenance for a year,,, planed completion date Feb 1 2010,,, did not start till Feb 2 2010,,, took Feb 3 2010 off to go to the southern farm show.
8) Ran into a problem I ordered a 15 spline clutch kit so to save on return ship'n I ordered a 10 spline main drive disc,,, gonna return the 15 spline,,,
I did not have a clutch line up too for a 10 spline (15 spline does not work on a 10 spline so I made one out of steel (took a slow learner 2 1/2 hours) the more I thought about it I could have turned the the 15 spline down to work but I never liked the plastic tool to begin with,,, I read the manual and it stated if a if a button clutch was to be installed the long hub protrusion must face the flywheel (it had a button clutch),,, if a organic lined disc is to be used the long hub must face the double clutch,,, I used the organic so installed the long part of the hub to the DC,,, I measured it all out and could not see were it would make a difference :roll: Clutch job went OK...

While I was their I replaced the rear crank seal,,, I first made a tool out of a PVC conector,,, then found a piece of steel i could turn out and add a step so not to install the seal to deep and made a plate to run the installer in,,, worked good,,, took 2 hour's are so to make it...

I also replaced the front axle pin and bushing,,, the pin fought me the hole dang way,,, what a beach to remove,,, took lots of heat,,, I had no problem installing the new pin go figger... this 3000 has a 1 3/4" axle pin and a 2" center axle pin bushing,,, it has a spacer to make up the difference,,, while I had a mess on the lathe turned out a new spacer,,, BYW the spacer sells for $73 from CNH,,, add another hour to the job,,, before I paid $73 I would reuse the old spacer... I also made a remover to knock out the old bushing and boarded a washer to fit the remover to convert it to a installer...

engine bolted up,,, axle installed,,, added a new water pump and hoses,,, installed the new radiator,,, aftermarket Radiator fits nice just had to tap for the shroud screws... installed tin and added a new muffler..

got a few questions

1) could not get the hydraulic tube suction to pull out of the rear housing so let it along,,, how does that bugger come out... was gonna replace the o-ring,,, soon I am going to remove the lift cover and will take a look then

2) Haft way tightened the new muffler on the manifold pipe (vertical) with a standard muffler clamp,,, would like to have a nice band clamp instead of a ugly muff clamp right were I can see it,,, mite have to make it :idea:

Next I need to rebuild the loader frame,,, pull the lift cover and change out the fluids,,, I had all new bolts on hand for the axle rebuild,,, it needed them bad,,, a loader sure works on'em :wink: here's a few pix...












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Hobo
It looks to me that you are doing a great job.
New clutch discs usually indicate "flywheel side"
Keep up the good work; and "keep the pictures comin"!
I wish I had a lathe, to get some of the easy stuff turned up.
I guess I'll have to watch the auctions after I get moved.
Brian

(quoted from post at 17:43:03 02/08/10) Hobo
It looks to me that you are doing a great job.
New clutch discs usually indicate "flywheel side"
Keep up the good work; and "keep the pictures comin"!
I wish I had a lathe, to get some of the easy stuff turned up.
I guess I'll have to watch the auctions after I get moved.
Brian

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no marking,,, normally they are marked because of a interference issue,,, not the case here as it can be installed either way so just went by the manual,,, Gonna have to put a fender in front of the lathe,,, I am fender broke and need something to lay my belly on...

Got the foot feed installed on the 3000 tonite,,, got it from Bill Crafton,,, its not bad at all,,, started out having to do some re-engineering till I figged out it needed a spacer under the mount were it bolts up to the steering gear DUH!,,, then all went well after I cleaned all the paint off the work'n ends, re drilled the cotter pin holes and filed down the ends to fit thru the pivot hole real nice,,, I did have to drill the hole out a tad larger were it fits the original hand throttle leaver... I had to come up with a few nuts and bolts BTW are metric but no problem,,, I also had to improvise a throttle spring cuzz it does not come with one,,, drilled a 3/8"
nut and tapped for a 1/4" NF bolt so I would have something to add the spring to and to also adjust the spring tension to my like'n,,, none of this was a problem for me cuzz I had all the extra parts need on hand,,, would be nice if they came with the foot feed :wink:.... I am gonna have to move the seat back a tad,,, its all the way back and was not to my like'n before the foot feed,,, also need to add something to raise my foot a tad so the foot feed will feel more natural,,, I think once i get the spring tension to my like'n i will like it I also think the steering gear covers will fit with a slight cut for the throttle rod,,, its already somewhat cut for this but needs a little more,,, I don't think I am going to put them back on anyways cuzz they only make a nice mouse bed and trap junk...



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Hobo
Thanks for the foot feed pictures.
Looks like a decent fit too.
Maybe I can find time to install mine someday; if I can still find it.
Can you get a picture of your version of that spring?
Thanks again.
Brian

(quoted from post at 15:41:14 02/09/10) Hobo
Thanks for the foot feed pictures.
Looks like a decent fit too.
Maybe I can find time to install mine someday; if I can still find it.
Can you get a picture of your version of that spring?
Thanks again.
Brian

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Its their marked in yeller just for you ,,, If its the same one I got from Bill I will work up a list of parts you will need to do the install...

Hobo
OK, I guess I'll just plead ignorance, cause I did not notice it the first time I looked! I think I have a spring about that size too.
I would appreciate the list too!
Thanks
Brian

Hobo
I forgot to mention:
My 3000 Ford's vertical muffler just just sits on the pipe extension.
It does turn every now and then, miss-aligning the rain cap, but I try not to look at it , maybe some day I'll try to find a pretty clamp to attach it permanent.
I have noticed a hex screw keeping the muffler from moving on several other tractors. It does look better than a muffler clamp.
Brian

(quoted from post at 19:06:59 02/09/10) Hobo
I forgot to mention:
My 3000 Ford's vertical muffler just just sits on the pipe extension.
It does turn every now and then, miss-aligning the rain cap, but I try not to look at it , maybe some day I'll try to find a pretty clamp to attach it permanent.
I have noticed a hex screw keeping the muffler from moving on several other tractors. It does look better than a muffler clamp.
Brian

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Mite have to remove the muff clamp,,, but first gonna make some kind of band clamp...

Mount foot feed to floor board
2) 5/16X1 1/4 bolts NF or NC your call
2) 5/16 nuts NF/NC your call
2) 5/16 lock washers
2) 5/16 flat washers
2) 3/8 nuts used for spacer tween foot feed and Flore board

pivot to steering gear spacer
1) 1/2" lock washer

throttle rod
4) 5/16 nuts NF

Throttle spring holder (adjustable)
1) 3/8 nut
1) 1/4" bolt 1/2" long (mite get a 3/4" just in case)
drill and tap the 3/8" nut for the 1/4" bolt to nail the nut to the throttle rod and so you can adjust the spring :wink:

1) 1/16" X 1" are longer cotter pin for the throttle rod near the carb
2) 3/32 cotter pins for the pivot and to the foot feed rods

little gismo with the chain to work the hand throttle
1) 6MX10MX1.0 are longer say 15MM

Foot feed rod jam nut to pivot
1) 6MMX1.0 nut

I had to drill out the end that goes on the original hand throttle to 21/64,,, had to remove the spring clip drill and file,,, measure yours if it does not fit,,, nut'n to removing the clip just don't let it fly away

I wasted rite much time re-engineering the damm thang till it hit me its was cocky eyed and a spacer under the pivot would cure the whole deal,,, then had to do some chiffering till it hit me it needed a spring to return the carb to idle and give some feel to the foot feed...

My 3000 will not start if the throttle is off idle,,, may be mine are may be they all are like that dunno... I may buy another just for the ell of it to see if I can make it work on my 850 and a N...

Hobo
Thanks for the list!
I'll save it, so I'll have it when I get started on the foot feed.
Brian

My parts manual shows a muffler clamp on the US version, and a solid one-piece connection from manifold to muffler on the UK version.

I've got my vertical exhaust with no clamp now and it's an OK fit but it does leak just a little especially at startup. I didn't want to put a soon-to-be-rusty muffler clamp up there either..

Greg

(quoted from post at 08:54:40 02/09/10) Got the foot feed installed on the 3000 tonite,,, got it from Bill Crafton,,, its not bad at all,,, started out having to do some re-engineering.....

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Hey all, newbie (to this forum) here needing to tap into the collective wisdom here with a foot throttle install problem, thus the resurrecting of an old thread.

I bought a foot throttle kit for a 1971 Ford 3000 that *appears* to be well put together and wasn't too spendy. Problem is, it didn't come with [u:6613097755]any[/u:6613097755] instructions, not even a kit inventory sheet. To add to the head-scratching they seem to have strung every bit possible together by threading anything with a hole in it over any bit of empty shaft. The vendor pleads ignorance, they say they buy them from someone else and just resell them. They further claim that even the manufacturer doesn't have any instructions!!

From a few pictures I could find, including those above, I sort of get the idea how this goes together but even trying to mock it up i end up with a [u:6613097755]bunch[/u:6613097755] of extra bits leftover.

Has anyone got a printed set of instructions from a kit they've bought previously they could share?

Any help offered will be gratefully received and faithfully applied.

I assume that this is a third party kit and not an OEM Ford kit. The extra parts are probably because it is some sort of "universal fit" kit that can be used to add a foot throttle to multiple tractor models and so they include all possible parts for all of the models it is supposed to work on.

Correct on both counts. LOL

It is a third party kit, not OEM, but is a kit specifically designed for the "Farmtrac 3600", AKA Ford knock-off's.

All I got back from the seller was that the kit was for my exact unit and no parts were missing or extra.

As I mentioned however, they made a point of emphasizing that even the kit manufacturer themselves had no instructions. I find that hard to believe, especially since it seems a well done kist, not some backyard shade tree mechanic cobbled together pile of junk.

All they would saywas that "any mechanic will know exactly how to put it together", well none of the machanics around here do.

I wish I could tell ya it was a slam dunk... After I played with for a bit it I got how its spose to work then did my modifications to my liking... No more than I paid for it I was a HAPPY with it : )... What I have some chines guy banged it out from scrap he has my vote its crude as ell but functional.

Do you have a link to what you brought.

One more thing I got use to the foot feed as is and did not have to move the seat are change the way my foot rested on the floor board... I don't even thing about it the foot feed has became natural.

(quoted from post at 08:42:52 02/19/20)What I have some chines guy banged it out from scrap he has my vote its crude as ell but functional.

Do you have a link to what you brought.

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This is the kit I bought, but mine is much more finished and professional looking.

It was ~$30 (CDN$46) with free shipping to my door so I can't complain about that at all.

OK nice where did you get the kit.

FleaBay.

I'll try to snap a couple of pictures when I'm at the shop later. It's a really nicely done kit.

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FleaBay.

I'll try to snap a couple of pictures when I'm at the shop later. It's a really nicely done kit.

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Is it tough to find an original foot throttle for the 3000 s?

Other than the fact that the NH price is waaaay higher, it s showing as back ordered and ETA shows as unavailable at my local dealer. Parts guy says that s code for if enough people inquire they might make another batch .

It looks to me that you are doing a great job.
New clutch discs usually indicate "flywheel side"