3 point ladder support

Dave in MS · Mar 22, 2009

A previous post asked for dimensions for building a 3 point boom pole. This got me to wondering if anyone has ever built, or bought a rig that would allow the 3 point to support an extension ladder. I've thought about making one but can't quite figure out how to keep it from being a man killer.

JMOR · Mar 22, 2009

(quoted from post at 12:32:04 03/22/09) A previous post asked for dimensions for building a 3 point boom pole. This got me to wondering if anyone has ever built, or bought a rig that would allow the 3 point to support an extension ladder. I've thought about making one but can't quite figure out how to keep it from being a man killer.

Now why is it that you might think you want such a rig?

Brian Allen · Mar 22, 2009

JMOR
I like your sense of humor!
Brian

john in la · Mar 22, 2009

I can see how the first one is just crazy; but what is wrong with the second one????

Brian Allen · Mar 22, 2009

john in la
Where is the operator?
Brian

Dave in MS · Mar 22, 2009

I've seen both of those pictures before which is why I said "IF" it could be made, and not be a man killer. :lol: I have a 4"x4"x 24' steel post with a light on top. It's set in concrete, but kind of scary putting a ladder up against it.

john in la · Mar 22, 2009

Ok with no operator I have to assume this is a one man job and he climbed up the loader to the bucket. That may be streaching it a little.

When you guys look at these you got to remember I am from a era where I have had mens lives in my finger tips because they were rideing a headache ball hundreds of feet in the air on a crane I was operating.

Dave in MS · Mar 22, 2009

John, Can you imagine the field day that OSHA would have with that operation today?

Brian Allen · Mar 22, 2009

John
The safety men/women of today would have a fit if they saw this!
Only one man to a ladder, it must be securely tied off, you are not permitted to work from a ladder, your belt buckle is not supposed to be outside the ladder, just to name a few!
Brian

old · Mar 22, 2009

Any time you deal with hyds. they can and will do funny things and get people hurt. Just think what would happen is a hose broke, down would come people and ladder etc

Dave in MS · Mar 22, 2009

Old, You're right. I wouldn't want to stake life and limb on an old hose, or a fifty year old Hydraulic system. I was thinking along the lines of using the 3 point as a means of supporting the ladder, not to raise it. A better approach might be a boom mounted on the rear axle, hanging over the front end, with supports down to the front axle. A cross bar below the apex could be used to lean the ladder against, and a 4x4 in front of the front wheels would keep the ladder's feet from sliding back. Just brainstorming.

JMOR · Mar 22, 2009

(quoted from post at 15:26:39 03/22/09) Old, You're right. I wouldn't want to stake life and limb on an old hose, or a fifty year old Hydraulic system. I was thinking along the lines of using the 3 point as a means of supporting the ladder, not to raise it. A better approach might be a boom mounted on the rear axle, hanging over the front end, with supports down to the front axle. A cross bar below the apex could be used to lean the ladder against, and a 4x4 in front of the front wheels would keep the ladder's feet from sliding back. Just brainstorming.

Or you could build my rig & just let the wife hoist you up in a harness or big bucket. :roll:
BTDT

Brian Allen · Mar 22, 2009

JMOR
With a sheave mounted in the top, and a hydraulic winch installed to do the lifting, it would make an excellent lift mechanism.
For personal use, would it have to be inspected and inspection records maintained?
Brian

Dave in MS · Mar 22, 2009

I think a rear mounted rig would flip my little 640 Ford, but your heavy Farmall is doing the job. Is that a Super M D? I spent many an hour on one of those as a 14 year old. It gave me my first experience at replacing a clutch.

JMOR · Mar 22, 2009

(quoted from post at 15:54:25 03/22/09) I think a rear mounted rig would flip my little 640 Ford, but your heavy Farmall is doing the job. Is that a Super M D? I spent many an hour on one of those as a 14 year old. It gave me my first experience at replacing a clutch.

ou willl notice that I have some iron bolted to the front plow mounts, sticking forward of radiator, with a stack of iron & timber for front weight.........only needed it for 1st 2-truss assembly, put the remainder up one at a time.
SMTA, 1954.

Inspection? This was in the country. Most things are legal, and the other things are too unless you get caught. :twisted:

Awlknottedup · Mar 22, 2009

Here is what I was thinking of building for my 3000.
Three point hitch mounted lift boom

Brian Allen · Mar 22, 2009

Awlknottedup
You will need a lot of weight on the front to lift much with that, due to it being so far back.
Brian

Ultradog MN · Mar 22, 2009

I don't know about the ladder. It might work pretty well actually.
I've thought many times about building a 3 point deer stand. A 16' tripod that you can pick up and move around. Leave it attached to the tractor for stability. And leave the tractor in the field for a month before the season so the deer are used to it. Move it around now and then.
Dave, I don't know what you need the ladder for but maybe a tripod would work.
Jmor, that's a great looking piece of rigging.
As for using your loader in different ways, around here we do that kind of stuff as often as we need to.

JMOR · Mar 22, 2009

(quoted from post at 21:53:00 03/22/09) I don't know about the ladder. It might work pretty well actually.
I've thought many times about building a 3 point deer stand. A 16' tripod that you can pick up and move around. Leave it attached to the tractor for stability. And leave the tractor in the field for a month before the season so the deer are used to it. Move it around now and then.
Dave, I don't know what you need the ladder for but maybe a tripod would work.
Jmor, that's a great looking piece of rigging.
As for using your loader in different ways, around here we do that kind of stuff as often as we need to.

<img src="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/Ultradog/one%20armed%20loader/P3190022.jpg">

Thank you! I was proud of it. I cut 54 of those tubes (pipe) out of a boiler to build the gin pole rig & my 32X48 hay shed, good for 108 round bales. Cut the shell in half on long side & used each half as a big culvert across two creeks.

souNdguy · Mar 23, 2009

Dang.. that looks familiar.. standing on something being held by a 1-arm loader...

BTDT many times!

soundguy

Dave in MS · Mar 23, 2009

Thanks to all the replies, I now have some great ideas to run with. It just goes to show how a pipe dream can be refined when it's handed to a group of experienced folks.
JMOR, I really like your set up, and will be looking for a boiler to tear apart. Those tubes are bound to be made from some pretty strong stuff, and have to be lighter than the drill stems I've used on some projects.
Brian Allen, the winch will definitely be part of the project, but my hand cranked geared job will have to do for now.
Ultradog MN, Kind of hard getting up there to change the bulb.

Brian Allen · Mar 23, 2009

Dave & Awlknottedup
I would like to see pictures of your versions when you are done.
That boom Awlknottedup posted looks like a usable item, but I won't have a category two tractor until I get the 4600 rebuilt. I think there is a valid reason for not using them on a category one tractor.
Keep me posted!
Regards
Brian

Dave in MS · Mar 27, 2009

Brian Allen, Sorry for not responding sooner. I made a little trip to Tahoe to catch the last snow. I'll post pics when I come up with a workable rig.

Brian Allen · Mar 27, 2009

Dave in MS
I will be happy to see your pictures whenever you are done, - don't rush on my account!
I will probably make one when I retire, (early 2011).
It would be great for lifting mounted on the 4600.
Brian

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