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3 Point Hitch for 800 Series

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Ed Gallop

08-15-2004 19:45:17




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I bought a Ford 800 Series and the 3 point hitch would not line up with the stabalizer bars to attach implements properly. The right lift arm has been broken/welded and appears different than the left one. The right one is 31" and the left one is 31 3/8" long (center to center). In order to line up with the new stabalizer bars (with new brackets) the lift arms should be about 30 inches long. I am wondering if I have the wrong stabalizer bars or the wrong lift arms.

I thought I bought a 1957 Model 860 because it had the live PTO but the model/serial numbers reveal it is a 1955 Ford 850. It has apparently been converted to live PTO (not the external clutch). Now that it is converted, is there is any other differences between the 850 and the 860 model? Could that be why my 3 point hitch arms don't match up?

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Jim.UT

08-16-2004 10:19:27




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 Re: 3 Point Hitch for 800 Series in reply to Ed Gallop, 08-15-2004 19:45:17  
If someone swapped an 860 transmission, it would have an 860 model number since the model number and serial number are stamped on the transmission housing.

Is it possible to install a dual clutch into an 850 and thereby convert it to live pto? I thought it was not (otherwise wouldn't more people do this conversion?).

Are you certain your tractor has live pto? When you push the clutch pedal down halfway does the pto stay engaged while the tractor stops?

Your serial number is very close to mine. Mine is 57804.

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Ed Gallop

08-17-2004 11:25:59




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 Re: 3 Point Hitch for 800 Series in reply to Jim.UT, 08-16-2004 10:19:27  
No I am not certain. I was told it was when I bought it and assumed it was. I will double check. Ed.



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Dave H (NY)

08-16-2004 05:09:00




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 Re: 3 Point Hitch for 800 Series in reply to Ed Gallop, 08-15-2004 19:45:17  
Ed, 3/8 of an inch should not present a problem, there is enough play in those arms to make up that much of a differance. Check to see if you have some room to slide the fender brackets a bit as well as the pins, and as Rich said be sure the brackets are on the same side. As far as the model of the tractor look right above the serial number, it is possible the trans case was changed also and you may actually have an original 860 since it is very costly to make the conversion. Good luck.

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Ed Gallop

08-16-2004 07:45:00




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 Re: 3 Point Hitch for 800 Series in reply to Dave H (NY), 08-16-2004 05:09:00  
Rick... Thanks for the information about the lift arm and stabalizer pins lining up. It puts the puzzle together.

The brackets that came with the tractor were different from each other. The left one had the stabalizer pin very close to being in line with the lift arm pin but the right bracket was about an inch in front of the lift arm pin. It was the right arm that wouldn't swing in far enough with the stabalizer bar attached so I thought it was the wrong bracket (correct assumption).

I bought new brackets and new stabalizer bars from Sam's. The new right bracket was not much different from the older one. The pin was still too far forward. So was the new right one. I put the old left bracket back on because the new bracket made things even worse. I wasted $90.00.

I should have bought the stabalizer kit offered on this website but I didn't know it existed. The brackets in the kit have several holes allowing the pins to be repositioned. It may have solved my problem. I will look for another right bracket that will line up the lift arm pin. I don't need 6 stabalizer bars or I would buy the kit.

Dave... Thank you too. I slid the bracket all I could and it is still way off. I now know I need a different bracket. The brackets I bought from Sam's will not line up properly. They are either the wrong ones or the PTO conversion (different transmission) changed the positioning of the lift arm pins. This is a challenging puzzle.

The model number is stamped 850 and the serial number is 55430 (indicating a 1955 model 850). It isn't supposed to have live PTO so I am assuming it was converted. If the transmission was changed then I have an 860 rear end and an 850 front end. I love the tractor even if it is a cross breed. ;-) It is semi-restored and looks/runs very nice.

You guys were very helpful. Thanks again. Ed.

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RICKWI

08-16-2004 04:41:48




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 Re: 3 Point Hitch for 800 Series in reply to Ed Gallop, 08-15-2004 19:45:17  
Are you sure the brackets are on the correct sides? The pins in the brackets must align with the pins for the lift arms.



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