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My first Ford 860.

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Greasy Greg

08-13-2004 18:41:02




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Just got a "new" 860 my brother-in-law found for me at an area auction. Love at first site when they came wheeling it in attached to a crane with the words "needs battery" written on the New Holland Blue front end loader. Well, what the heck, couldn't be that bad.... She fired and ran a smooth as a new Honda Prelude but quickly overheated. Hydraulics pick up the front end loader but you can almost see it dropping as she looses pressure. PTO can only be engaged before you start her up (if there's a trick to this let me know_) I'm assuming the clutch is going out. After busting my knuckles pulling off the sheet metal to check the radiator (completely shot) I've decided that she sure runs smooth and I'm gonna try and fix this baby up. I've read a large number of the posts here and am thrilled to have an arena that I can pick up information and possibly even help someone else. Man I wish I had a picture....This red belly is UUUUUGLY!

Best manuals? (IT doesn't look promising)
Where's best place to get used parts? I'm gonna need a few.
Are NAA or 600's or even 8N's interchangable, ie. radiator

Thanks in advance.

Greg

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Greasier Greg

08-14-2004 18:13:18




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 Re: My first Ford 860. in reply to Greasy Greg, 08-13-2004 18:41:02  
Wow, got the grill, sheet metal and radiator out. Lessons learned:
1. WD-40 every screw, nut, bolt
2. Two (hidden) bolts holding sheet metal on up under hood.
3. Side bolts for sheet metal have inner nuts holding.

Serial Number Plate cleaned off. Reads: 860 119013
1957 Ford 860 Series?

Questions:

1. Anyone know where or how to ID this front end loader. Original color was yellow, been painted twice (red now blue) so probably older model. Imprinted on lever box is five digit number and Made in the USA. Has a plate on both sides with a serial number, 18180. So basically all I got.
2. Did these things not come with thermostat gaskets? 3. Thanks for the tip on the Clutch setting. Has much more movement and about 2/3 of the way in a distinct change in tension. 4. Last question. This front end loader works off a spindle assembly on the front of the tractor. Grill was cut to allow mounting. Question is: Is there anyway to remove the fan belt without unhooking the front end loader?

Thanks all.

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john in la

08-14-2004 07:25:34




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 Re: My first Ford 860. in reply to Greasy Greg, 08-13-2004 18:41:02  
Some thing how that love at first site works.

Best advise I think any one can give you is to buy quality parts. NH still has most parts for these tractors but if you are careful some after market parts will do. Many have had problems with China radiators and other posters say they will only use the Ford clutch because of after market problems.

Forget about IT manuals and get the ford manuals on this site or even e-bay. Cost more but worth it.

Your Hyd leak for front loader is probably in the hand valves. If your clutch pedal does not stick almost straight up when released the linkage is in the position that does not allow the PTO clutch to disengage. Move the pin to the other hole on linkage. The radiator for the 800"s only fits the 800"s and 900"s.

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txblu

08-14-2004 06:57:55




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 Re: My first Ford 860. in reply to Greasy Greg, 08-13-2004 18:41:02  
Manuals for 600 to 800, "55 thru "60 are on this site under Manuals (upper left of home page or this page).

Very nice printed replicas of original Ford manuals; not photo copies. Very thorough especially the service manual.

Priced right.

Mark



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Mike in OH

08-14-2004 05:19:15




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 Re: My first Ford 860. in reply to Greasy Greg, 08-13-2004 18:41:02  
Only thing I can help with is the radiator. I wouldn't buy one made in China. I had to replace the radiator on my 640. My buddy picked me up a new one because he could get a good price on it. The original fan shroud would not bolt up to it. Bought a good quality radiator that was made in Ireland because I couldn't find one made in the U.S.A.. Dropped right in with no problems.



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paul

08-13-2004 19:36:55




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 Re: My first Ford 860. in reply to Greasy Greg, 08-13-2004 18:41:02  
> PTO can only be engaged before you start her up (if there"s a trick to this let me know_)

Make sure the linkage on the end of the clutch pedal is in the hole so the clutch pedal raises as high as possible. There is a pin & clevis there, one hole will let the pedal remain low & easier to use - but will not engage the pto clutch. In the high position, it will engage the tranny clutch 1/2 way down, pto clutch all the way down.

--->Paul

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