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Gerald Holloway

01-14-2004 13:33:57




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I bought a 2000 4-cyl. diesel ford tractor last summer. The tractor ran great. But now that winter has arrived, and the temptures are around the teens, the tractor will not fire up so that I can go plow the eight inches of snow. Anyone have a trick or solution to my problem.




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paul

01-15-2004 00:53:28




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 Re: cold weather starting in reply to Gerald Holloway, 01-14-2004 13:33:57  
What have you done so far?

New fuel filter?

Winter (#1) diesel?
Or a blend?
Or an additive?
Because regular #2 gels below 25 degrees.

What oil are you using, a winter oil or a synthetic?

Do the glow plugs (or Ford system) work & are you using it?

Do you have a good strong battery?

A block, tank, or hose heater really is needed for these old girls if it gets below 20 & you let them set more than 2-3 days between running.

So, all of the above should give you a good running winter diesel tractor. :)

Ether is needed once in a while, but can be real dangerous when used with manifold glow plugs (Ford - blow up manifold) and are just not good for the engine as others have said.

--->Paul

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mark

01-15-2004 12:01:26




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 Re: Re: cold weather starting in reply to paul, 01-15-2004 00:53:28  
I also have a Ford 2000 Diesel. I am unaware of the internal condition other than it starts and runs fine.

It is equipped with intake manifold glow plugs. They look like very large spark plugs and are easily seen when standing beside the tractor on the intake manifold side (left side).

Mine are operated by a switch located under the cowling, just above the ignition switch.

I turn on the ignigion, depress (push up) the glow switch for what seems like forever (30 sec to 1 min), release the switch and immediately hit the starter. On really cold days, the engine turns over 2 or 3 times and comes on line.

I don't hold in the glow switch while starting as the ampere draw on the battery would be huge with both high current loads going at the same time.

Additionally, a high amperage fresh battery with large #2 or better cables with clean fittings would also go a long way to insure success. You have to have enough battery to survive the glow and the start process.

Mark

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Fred

01-17-2004 06:37:57




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 Re: Re: Re: cold weather starting in reply to mark, 01-15-2004 12:01:26  
I have a 861D and its big thing for cold weather starting is the glow plugs. I have to activate them until the intake manifold around the glow plugs is warm to the touch. Colder days will obviously take longer to warm up than warmer days, but when it is warm to the touch, she fires right up.



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mark tomek

01-15-2004 11:05:39




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 Re: Re: cold weather starting in reply to paul, 01-15-2004 00:53:28  
I bought a Ford 3000 3 cyl Diesel. The thing started pretty well (no assist) when the weather was warm but when it got chilly, it really needed the crutches. I did lots of things including new starter and battery to spin it over fast enough; replaced the glow plug; put a port in the intake manifold for ether injection and new injectors, had a hair dryer to force hot air into inlet and who knows what else.

I finally decided that it wouldn't start because of inadequate compression (couldn't heat the air hot enough to explode the fuel). I did an inframe for about $1000 and have a different tractor. It leaps into life. It's no wonder, the rings were so bad that one side was half as thick as the other.

Next time I buy one if the salesman has to use ether to get it started, he'll keep it.

Mark

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Bob

01-14-2004 17:06:14




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 Re: cold weather starting in reply to Gerald Holloway, 01-14-2004 13:33:57  
I agree with Van. Ether is bad news for diesels. The more you use it, the more they need it. It was 6 below 0 when I got home today. I plugged in my MF 65 diesel for a half hour and then it started.



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Van(WA)

01-14-2004 16:44:48




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 Re: cold weather starting in reply to Gerald Holloway, 01-14-2004 13:33:57  
Gerald; Put on a "block heater", about $25.00 at your local NH dealer. Either works, but a lot of engines have blown up with it's use,especially if the person gives it to much. Its a bad habit to get into--my $.02 worth.



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Jason Binkley

01-14-2004 14:03:47




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 Re: cold weather starting in reply to Gerald Holloway, 01-14-2004 13:33:57  
My Grandfather has a ford 3000, and has always had a problems getting it started since new, in cold weather. When temps get below 20 degrees, he just gives it a shot of ether and it fires right up. Many people have told us that its just one of those things that you have to do to these type of engines in cold weather, or when they start to get old. Hope this works.



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TimK

01-16-2004 09:12:09




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 Re: Re: cold weather starting in reply to Jason Binkley, 01-14-2004 14:03:47  
One more thing to consider. Cold weather will deplete the starting power of the battery. You need at least 200rpm in order to start, so if your battery is old and/or low, that may contribute to the problem. My $.02



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