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dave(ne)

05-04-2003 20:07:53




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I have 1957 861 with 6 volt system. It idles rough below 600-700 rpm. All other rpm's seem fine. I've tried adjusting carb with no luck. I put in new points and plugs (autolite 437). I want to check the timing but I am not sure if a regular automotive timing light will work on a 6 volt system. Can a guy manually adjust the timing by moving dist and listening to the engine.
Thanks for any help.

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raytasch

05-05-2003 04:25:38




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 Re: 861 Timing in reply to dave(ne), 05-04-2003 20:07:53  
Crank the engine around by hand and mark all three timing marks, 4, 13, and 24 deg. That is the only way you will be able to see anything. ray



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Dave (Md)

05-05-2003 09:03:47




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 Re: Re: 861 Timing in reply to raytasch, 05-05-2003 04:25:38  
I just got the accumulated crud off the timing marks on my 861 & the next session will be to set the timing. Why mark the 4, 13, & 24 hashes? The 4 degree is at idle, right? What speeds are the others for? I didn't see anything in the book about this. (Maybe someone could become a writer a la Haynes or Chilton for tractors... or tractors for dummies. I'd buy!) Puzzled Dave



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raytasch

05-05-2003 11:17:46




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 Re: Re: Re: 861 Timing in reply to Dave (Md), 05-05-2003 09:03:47  
Actually, I just checked the Ford shop manual, page 95, and it shows for the 8X1 series a little different:
1. idle 5 deg

2.1200 rpm 14 1/2--16 1/2 deg. Yeah, right, I am sure you are going to get this half degree thing right on.

3.2200 rpm -26-28 deg

Just make sure you are getting advance.
ray



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Dave (Md)

05-05-2003 11:33:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 861 Timing in reply to raytasch, 05-05-2003 11:17:46  
Thanks for the info. It's greatly appreciated.



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Larry NCKS

05-04-2003 21:22:10




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 Re: 861 Timing in reply to dave(ne), 05-04-2003 20:07:53  
Sometimes timing by ear is best. It is difficult to see the timing marks on that unit, but a timing light will work. BTW Ford did not make the *01 series in '57. You either have an 860 or a later tractor.



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dave(ne)

05-05-2003 19:52:33




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 Re: Re: 861 Timing in reply to Larry NCKS, 05-04-2003 21:22:10  
I have an early model 861 built in Oct 1957 s/n 2962.



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