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Live v. non-live PTO

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04-03-2003 15:30:35

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I have an opportunity to buy a 600 series ford tractor with live PTO, is this a big advantage over non-live PTO?? (Comparing 660 model to 650 model).

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04-04-2003 07:07:05

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 Re: Live v. non-live PTO in reply to Chuck, 04-03-2003 15:30:35  
If you're going to be cutting heavy brush with a bush hog live power is the only way to go. You can drive into the brush and if the cutting gets heavy, depress the clutch part way stoping the forward motion of the tractor, but continuing to grind the brush.

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04-03-2003 16:41:16

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 Re: Live v. non-live PTO in reply to Chuck, 04-03-2003 15:30:35  
depends..can be terrific.. for instance when i am running the hay baler or hay cutter,, i can change gears for corners and heavery crops with out shutting down the baler.. why the tractor is still rolling and baling, i simple very quickly grab a higher or lower gear. but the heavy load on the baler.. just keeps on going..

older tractor shut every thing down when you depress the clutch..

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04-03-2003 15:38:56

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 Re: Live v. non-live PTO in reply to Chuck, 04-03-2003 15:30:35  
What is a good price range for 660 and 650?

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04-03-2003 18:24:29

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 Re: Re: Live v. non-live PTO in reply to Chuck, 04-03-2003 15:38:56  
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660 and 650 tractors can sell anywhere from $2800 on up to $4500 depending on how popular they are in your area, mechanical condition, appearance, implements included, etc etc.

I just talked to a man in Kansas who is selling an 861 (live pto, bigger engine, a couple years newer) for $3,000. Claims it runs great and looks really good. Price includes a loader that is not installed. Drawback to the loader is that the tractor does not have p/s (main reason it was removed). Also, the tractor was originally a LP version that has been converted to gasoline. LP tank is still there, though. I'm waiting for him to send some pics.

I bought my 850 (the one in the pic) for $3000. Price included an old hay rake that fell apart 2 years later, a loader (Wagner) that I sold for $400, and a Dearborn sickle mower that was missing some parts (sold for $50). Since then, I've added lights (headlights, worklight, taillight), bumper, toolbox, new wiring, glass jar cleaner (not in pic), and front wheel weights.

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