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4-spd vs 5-spd on Ford 4000

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02-28-2001 06:56:19

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I am going to buy an early 60's Ford 4000, and am trying to choose from three (all the same price). Two are 4 speeds, and one is a 5-speed The 5-speed has also been converted to 12V. Is the 5-speed a lot better to have than the 4-speed? As far as the two 4-speeds go, one has new rear tires (and is still 6V), the other has the pie weights and a canopy/windshield (and worn rear tires, but has been converted to 12V). I live in New England. Opinions and thoughts apreciated. Thanks, Mike

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Tony Jacobs

02-28-2001 20:15:24

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 Re: 4-spd vs 5-spd on Ford 4000 in reply to Mike , 02-28-2001 06:56:19  
Hi Mike, I have to agree with Jimmy the 5 speed is definitely the weaker and the most expensive transmission to fix , when they start jumping out of 3rd and reverse . If it is a 5 speed live pto then you will burning up a $1000 clutch job sooner rather than later . You did not say if the four speeds had a sherman trans. or what you will be doing with the tractor ? Where in New England ? I live in Mass. Thanks Tony Jacobs

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Jimmy J

02-28-2001 17:24:39

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 Re: 4-spd vs 5-spd on Ford 4000 in reply to Mike , 02-28-2001 06:56:19  

Mike, What these guys are not telling you is the five speed is a lot weaker than the for speed. half of the third gears won't stay in Its just not as strong. Believe me I've been there. Also you might try to get the seller to swap some tires around ,after all he does have three to sell,what should he care. try it,the worst he can say is NO By the way did you say what models they were ?? Jim

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02-28-2001 18:40:31

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 Re: Re: 4-spd vs 5-spd on Ford 4000 in reply to Jimmy J, 02-28-2001 17:24:39  
The 5-speed clutch might wear out a little quicker, and there are of course more parts in the tranny, but I would always buy that first all other things being about equal. Some heavy loader operators might want the 4-speed for the tougher clutch, but for general all-around work the 5 speed is better.

Also, 6 volt doesn't bother me at all, I'm not really even sure why everyone is obsessed with converting. I run a small farm in southern MN, I have 4 old gas 6-volt tractors I use, just took a generator in today to be rebuilt. 6-volt works fine if you keep the system up & run them once in a while. Grounding is important on a 12 volt system, quadrouple so on a 6 volt, keep that path good & it should work fine. I'd rather spend my money on a good plug in 6/12 booser/charger than to convert all the charging/ lights set-up on the tractor.

Now, if you need 12 volts to run something then I understand....


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Al English

02-28-2001 15:00:57

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 Re: 4-spd vs 5-spd on Ford 4000 in reply to Mike , 02-28-2001 06:56:19  
The highest and lowest gear ratios provided by the 5-speed are almost the same as a 4-speed/Sherman combo...Al English

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Tommy D

02-28-2001 10:57:13

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 Re: 4-spd vs 5-spd on Ford 4000 in reply to Mike , 02-28-2001 06:56:19  
Go for the 5 speed! I have a 64 model 4000 with 5 speed, and running things like a tiller would be all but impossible with the 4 speed (1st too fast). Also, 5 speed had 2 stage clutch giving you "live" pto!

Check out this site for MUCH more on these old girls...


My opinion,
Tommy D.

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Dave M

02-28-2001 07:40:07

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 Re: 4-spd vs 5-spd on Ford 4000 in reply to Mike , 02-28-2001 06:56:19  
All else being equal, the 5 speed is nicer to have. First gear on the 5 speed is a bit more than half of first on the four speed, 5-speed second is close to 4-speed first, etc.

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