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Tony M

03-19-2000 14:52:03

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I just purchased a 1841 Industrial Ford tractor, and it doesn't seem to fit the information found on the web. The model number on the left side on the transmission indicates 1841-S, and the serial number is <58222>. The backhoe is a 713 and the loader is model 19-I3I. It is not clear if the numbers are 1's or I's, as they seem to be used interchangeably. It has a PTO and 3pt hitch also, with a fwd/rev transmission lever.
Can someone help me with the decoding of these numbers? The machine needs some help. Thanks in advance. tony

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Andy Wickiser

03-22-2000 07:55:38

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Re: 1841 Industrial in reply to Tony M, 03-19-2000 14:52:03

I ran into something similar with my 19-97 loader - I thought it was an "I9-97" first because that's what the data plate said. Went to the dealership and asked about a "I9-97" loader and they said "Oh a 19-97. I don't think Ford used letters in their loader numbering scheme, it's probably a 19-131. Anyway my Ford 840 also came with a 713 backhoe as yours. Took me a while to figure this out because there was no data plate. I just got a fine set of manuals for my 19-97 loader and 713 backhoe from the N Newsletter. Check out>Link
They>Link did not have a 19-131 manual though. BTW my tractor, loader, and backhoe were just beat to death when I didn't know better and bought them. After a couple years of hard work I'm just now starting to work on the 'hoe. Good luck

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Tony M.

03-25-2000 04:09:58

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Re: Re: 1841 Industrial in reply to Andy Wickiser, 03-22-2000 07:55:38

Thanks for you reply, glad I'm not the only one who has gone down this same path! I haven't given it a name yet, but I might call it "Leaky". I'll check out the site URL.
Tony

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Tony Jacobs

03-19-2000 19:48:50

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Re: 1841 Industrial in reply to Tony M, 03-19-2000 14:52:03

Well Tony what would you like to know? The numbers are ones. Your tractor is a 1958 Ford Heavy Duty Industrial, Cast Iron grille, cable actuated power steering,1841-S is the model#, 18=H.D.Industrial, 4=four speed, 1= 1958-up, S= sherman trans. The 19-131 is the model 712 Ford loader, 713 is the Ford backhoe model#. All the books you may need are available from Ford,as are most of the parts. 58222 is the serial#.

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Tony M

03-25-2000 04:32:59

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Re: Re: 1841 Industrial in reply to Tony Jacobs , 03-19-2000 19:48:50

That info matches the tractor, except for the power steering. What is on the machine today is a valve body mounted on the end of the steering wheel shaft under the hood. Two hoses connect to what may be a "steering valve body" that has 2 hoses to the hydralic cylinder that moves the tie rod ends and 2 hoses that tie into the main hydralic system that must provide the power. There is no seperate power steering pump. And the power steering does not work. It steers, but w/effort!

- What do people recommend concerning detergent/non-detergent engine oil? An article in Popular Mechanics magazine indicated detergent oil will breakdown the old rubber seals in autos.
- Leaded gas is not available here. What about a lead substitue in the unleaded gasoline? It doesn't get a lot of use, so maybe it is not an issue.

I appreciate any advice so I get started down the right path. Thanks,
Tony

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Tony Jacobs

03-25-2000 05:15:26

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Re: Re: Re: 1841 Industrial in reply to Tony M, 03-25-2000 04:32:59

Tony I don't where you live, but there is no such thing as leaded gas anymore, has'nt been for years .It is not an issue to worry about. Same goes for Detergent/Non-Detergent oil, Non-Detergent oil was designed for engines that did not have oil filters so that contaminates would settle in the bottom of the crankcase and not be carried around in the oil. Detergent oil suspends particles in the oil so they can be carried to the oil filter and then removed by the filter, It has been years since I have even seen a quart of non-detergent oil. Your steering is a typical fix, It has been replaced by a hydraulic steering motor, and yes there has to be a power steering pump to make it work, the original Ford power steering is used to power the system.That Popular Mechanics book sounds as old as the tractor is, and that's about as good as the information is. As far as oil goes a good 15W-40 fleet oil of a good brand name is fine. Thanks Tony Jacobs

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Tony M.

03-26-2000 03:54:41

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 1841 Industrial in reply to Tony Jacobs , 03-25-2000 05:15:26

Thanks, Tony, I appreciate your help!
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