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cash cow

01-25-2000 17:25:29

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This is a general issue but since it involves the fate of a Ford, I'm asking you all.
53 Jubilee is getting restored. Friend #1 says remove the tin& wheels, tape off all openings, grease all fittings,sandblast entire tractor and tin and repaint. Friend #2 says no sandblast,grinder and wirewheel everything and repaint. Friend #3 says sandblast only tin and misc unbolt items, never anything with a moving part. Tractor to be used for show and light work . Who's right here? Are they pulling my leg? Any articles on the subject?

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R.Wijngaard

02-27-2001 05:50:49

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Re: Sandblasting - Take it all off! in reply to cash cow, 01-25-2000 17:25:29

Can you gif more information about compact sandblast equipment

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texaz135

01-29-2000 05:34:59

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Re: Sandblasting - Take it all off! in reply to cash cow, 01-25-2000 17:25:29

I was in the paint and body business for 17 yrs. My experience tells me that unless the piece being sandblasted is totally flat that it will "leak" sand forever. And so will you. That darned sand gets everywhere. On the other hand, it is the only way to get rid of rust short of cutting it out and replacing the rusted area with new metal. Good luck with your choice. Tex

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Willie

01-27-2000 13:24:22

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Re: Sandblasting - Take it all off! in reply to cash cow, 01-25-2000 17:25:29

I wouldn't sand blast anything other than rusty tin or something you are going to take completely apart after. If you have just one piece of tape fail, you could end up with a crankcase full of sand before you think about moving your gun. If you have dirt/oil/grease caked on the castings, use a cleaner and high power (3500-4000 psi)pressure washer/sprayer. Water at that pressure can even remove paint that is stuck on. Any water you get in the crankcase or transmission can be drained off.

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Jim

01-27-2000 03:50:16

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Re: Sandblasting - Take it all off! in reply to cash cow, 01-25-2000 17:25:29

If I am not mistaken, the sheet metal has a thin coat of galvanize under the paint if it has never been blasted before. Thats why generally you do not see a 2,8,9 or NAA rusted out like a automobile. I know the early ones were. Use striper and wire brush. With the multiple places on a NAA that sand could get in on the castings, I seriously doubt you could keep it clean.

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Troy (KY)

01-26-2000 21:24:52

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Re: Sandblasting - Take it all off! in reply to cash cow, 01-25-2000 17:25:29

If you're gonna sandblast, first use a paint stripper to remove all the paint you can. Take off all the tin,and wheels and remove the guages and proofmeter,along with the lights. grease all fittings,then clean off all excess grease with a solvent. the remaining castings should be stripped patiently with a good paint remover in order to keep the "blasting" to a mininum. There is nothing-what-so-ever you can do to keep the sand from entering places you dont want it. My oppinion is to be prepared to go very deep into the motor with you're search for sand after you've done the "big dirty". Even though you've used the best in techniques to prevent it from getting "in". My restoration went deeper because of a failure in my sealing expertise. I had a bad feeling about the sand, so I bought a gasket set and went "in search of". I found a very small amount of sand on top of a piston, and in the top of the oil filler tube. Saddened by this, even though I was carefull not to rotate any moving parts. I proceded to take her apart, bolt by bolt, until I found no traces of sand or dust, then I put it all back together. I have a very fine,restored Golden Jubilee. I show it and drive it in every parade I can. The only reason I dont use it is, It is so hard to clean up to that "New" look it has. I dont worry bout the sand now, cause I searched every removable part!
I will not blast the castings again. the worry is to great. A good quality "air plane" paint stripper works very well on castings. Sand blasting cant be equaled on your're tin if you're goal is to remove all scale and rust. It all depends on just how deep you want to go to restore you're tractor. The main thing is to have a good time. There is nothing like that first ride on a beautiful restoration. Good Luck!

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George (TX)

01-26-2000 06:10:05

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Re: Sandblasting - Take it all off! in reply to cash cow, 01-25-2000 17:25:29

Hello cash cow:
Listen to Bern. I would only consider sandblasting an entire machine if it was a piece of junk. If that tractor of yours is worth restoring (and not in too bad of shape), you don't want to sandblast the entire thing. And the pieces that you do remove and clean up by sandblasting, go easy, no more than necessary to clean them up. You can over do it.
Listen to Bern.
Let us know how it goes. The Jubilee is a nice machine.
Good luck.
George (TX)

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Bern

01-25-2000 19:46:29

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Re: Sandblasting - Take it all off! in reply to cash cow, 01-25-2000 17:25:29

I'll take door #3! Be careful with sandblasting, especially if you're using something fine like silica sand. You will get grit in places you never imagined, even if you are careful about masking.

I would say that sandblasting is fine for sheet metal and wheel rims that are already removed from the machine, but for the potential risk, it is not worth it to sandblast the castings in my opinion.

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D. R. White

01-25-2000 17:55:11

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Re: Sandblasting - Take it all off! in reply to cash cow, 01-25-2000 17:25:29

There all rigth in there own respect. Any way will get you there. Just have fun doing it. I like #1.

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Buck

01-25-2000 17:50:35

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Re: Sandblasting - Take it all off! in reply to cash cow, 01-25-2000 17:25:29

Now Cash I'm telling you the facts but you consider it another opinion. Ask yourself Is the paint on this tractor sound. Not shiny or anything like that --the paint is just sticking real good to the metal. if this is the case then that is where you want to start. If there are spots where the original metal is showing then touch tem up by sanding etc. Clean the entire tractor with good solvent etc to get all greese and oil film off. If the sheet metal is rust pitted it is going to take multiple coats of primer, color primer and paint to get a show finish. I say only sandblast as the last resort like in the case of a burned tractor that has been allowed to rust. You choose the paint. The jube is a nice tractor--got an NAA myself

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