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gnw

10-24-1999 16:11:51




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I have a 1973 3000 with a two stage clutch.The pto does not disengage when the clutch pedal is pushed all the way to the bottom. Is there any way to break this loose short of spliting the tractor? many thanks .




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Festus

10-24-1999 18:36:15




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 Re: pto in reply to gnw, 10-24-1999 16:11:51  
I have a 1973 3000 with the same problem. Thought it was stuck, but turned out the second stage of the clutch was not working. Either out of adjustment or maybe a broken fork. If you have a dealer near with a dyno, that's the easiest way to see if it is stuck or not. A new clutch runs about 500 dollars. I don't know what all you do with the pto, but all I do is brush hog. I just engage the pto before starting the tractor. The extra drag isn't even noticeable when starting it. The dealer even told me that most guys don't fix them until the other part of the clutch goes out too. Best of Luck.

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Mike's Tractors

10-24-1999 18:07:18




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 Re: pto in reply to gnw, 10-24-1999 16:11:51  
You can adjust the PTO clutch without splitting the tractor!!! You must remove the fuel tank and steering sector as one unit, then you can get to the clucthes. You need an IT shop manual for instructions.



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Bern

10-24-1999 21:17:00




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 Re: Re: pto in reply to Mike's Tractors, 10-24-1999 18:07:18  
I would sure like to see that done! I'm not saying it's impossible, but it couldn't be easy. And there's no way to repair the thing through that hole either. Think how disappointed the guy would be if he went through all that to find out he had to split it anyway!



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Jerry (Mo)

10-24-1999 17:24:17




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 Re: pto in reply to gnw, 10-24-1999 16:11:51  
I have only had the live PTO disc stick once, and to get it unstuck, the only way I could think of was to hook up to the square baler and with the clutch totally depressed, and the pto turning at the recommended 540, I bursted a bale of hay, and began throwing it in the hay pickup in large chunks to temporarily overload the baler. This jerked the disc loose, then all I had to do was dig out some of the hay and feed it back in in a normal manner to re-bale it up. It might be difficult to find a square baler today to try this method. I cannot think of any other implement that would allow you to temporarily overload the PTO without the tractor moving unless you had a big enough hill that you could coast down with enough brush on it to overload the PTO with the clutch totally down, or possibly backing up to a bunch of brush and let the brush cutter down on it rather fast to temporarily overload the PTO with the tractor stopped and the clutch depressed. Good luck.

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paul

10-26-1999 22:41:34




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 Re: Re: pto in reply to Jerry (Mo), 10-24-1999 17:24:17  
Feed mill (feed grinder).

--->a farmer ;)



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Bern

10-24-1999 16:31:04




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 Re: pto in reply to gnw, 10-24-1999 16:11:51  
Before you do anything else, make sure that you don't have too much free play in the clutch pedal. Too much free play will leave you with too little travel to disengage both stages.

Also, some 3000s used a 2 position clevis where it attaches to the throwout arm cross shaft. One position was for single stage use, the other was for two stage. See the owner's manual for more info.

If this all checks out, you then have to determine whether the disc is actually stuck, or if there is something mechanically wrong with the pressure plate not allowing it to disengage. If it is the former, there are numerous ways people use to "pop" a stuck disc. If it is the latter, better figure on splitting it.

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gnw

10-26-1999 11:38:07




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 Re: Re: pto in reply to Bern, 10-24-1999 16:31:04  
thanks for all the replies. i believe clutch is adjusted correctly, but i'll check it again. also thought about trying to stick a post hole digger to see if that would work.I only use it to mow with a 6 foot grooming mower but would sure like to get it fixed.



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