TO-20 Correct oil filter

Hdonly · Sep 26, 2022

I have read the Ford N series oil filters fit the Furguson TO-20. I have also read that these oil filters can do harm because the '20 flows oil in the opposite direction through the filter. Is TO-18662-2 the proper filter and where to buy it?

Tom H. · Sep 26, 2022

Fram C134PL. Works great. Rubber gaskets may fit. And available and most department stores.

Bruce(OR) · Sep 26, 2022

I just researched the article and you are correct. As for the Fram filter, that might warrant a look at either the filter itself to ensure it is internally reinforced for reverse flow or is in fact a separate listing.

Hdonly · Sep 26, 2022

(quoted from post at 06:30:20 09/26/22) Fram C134PL. Works great. Rubber gaskets may fit. And available and most department stores.

The Ferguson Shop Manual contains the following admonition: "CAUTION: Do not interchange the two filter elements. The filter element for the TO-30 engine, Part No. TO-18662-A, is designed for oil flow from the outside to the center. The filter element for the TO-20 and TE-20 engines, Part No. TO-18662-2, is designed for the oil flow from the center to the outside. If the elements are interchanged in the engines, the relative flow of oil will be reversed and plugging will result."

I don't think that Fram filter is the correct one.

Hdonly · Sep 26, 2022

This site lists an oil filter for the Ferguson TO-20 but the numbers that it says it replaces do not match the number in the Ferguson TO-20 parts manual. Searching for the number in the parts manual is very unproductive across the web. I'm skeptical about the filter on this site as I have found a few other sites that claim their filters cross but they actually don't. This is becoming a bit of a dilemma.

Tom H. · Sep 26, 2022

Sorry I looked again at the Fram site c-153 is the correct filter. I had looked at the TO30 part.

Tom

Bruce(OR) · Sep 26, 2022

As I said, filter inspection might be in order. While not listed, it is possible that a center reinforced filter might in fact work just fine.
I don't believe the filter itself filters all the oil going to the bearings. Another fine design. Most canister filters look like a roll of
toilet paper inside a wire cage. Agco supposedly is the one making that particular filter. New Holland or Case might be your source for that
filter.
Me? I probably have the wrong one installed as do a few other people but with mine, I did look inside and verify inside reinforcement.
That only leaves one consideration and that might be the filtering material itself. Does it have lowering micron filtering in the interior? If
so, that might negate utilizing the incorrect filter on the engine in conjunction with the reverse flow characteristics.
Cappech?

Hdonly · Sep 26, 2022

I got two filters today. The WIX 51010 (listed for N series) is metal reinforced inside and metal outside.
The BALDWIN P40 (listed for TO-20) is metal reinforced inside and like cardboard outside.
The Baldwin (5 Nominal; 25 Absolute) has rubber seals on the center holes and the Wix (not finding micron rating) does not.

Tom H. · Sep 28, 2022

Sorry for the TO30.

olddavid · Jul 5, 2023

(quoted from post at 06:41:59 09/26/22) I just researched the article and you are correct. As for the Fram filter, that might warrant a look at either the filter itself to ensure it is internally reinforced for reverse flow or is in fact a separate listing.

So, if the Baldwin P40 filter that was supplied to me for the TE-20 is reinforced inside (and it is) it will work even though the flow is backward? It is also listed as a replacement for the TO-30 though the oil flow is reversed from the TE-20.

olddavid · Jul 5, 2023

(quoted from post at 11:04:19 07/05/23)

(quoted from post at 06:41:59 09/26/22) I just researched the article and you are correct. As for the Fram filter, that might warrant a look at either the filter itself to ensure it is internally reinforced for reverse flow or is in fact a separate listing.

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So, if the Baldwin P40 filter that was supplied to me for the TE-20 is reinforced inside (and it is) it will work even though the flow is backward? It is also listed as a replacement for the TO-30 though the oil flow is reversed from the TE-20.

Point of clarification: I was told by a Baldwin representative that Baldwin no longer specified a replacement filter for the TE-20. The open area inside the P40 filter is maybe 3 times larger in diameter than the Baldwin T44-M that came out of the tractor. The T44-M had a metal or fiber (not sure which) reinforcement tube as well.

This post was edited by olddavid on 07/05/2023 at 06:38 pm.

olddavid · Jul 7, 2023

(quoted from post at 19:35:39 09/26/22) I got two filters today. The WIX 51010 (listed for N series) is metal reinforced inside and metal outside.
The BALDWIN P40 (listed for TO-20) is metal reinforced inside and like cardboard outside.
The Baldwin (5 Nominal; 25 Absolute) has rubber seals on the center holes and the Wix (not finding micron rating) does not.

I believe the correct # from Wix is 51107 for the TE-20 and NAPA is 1107. I don't believe these come with the rubber seals which I think would diminish filtering. Edit: I just heard that the NAPA 1107 has been discontinued.

This post was edited by olddavid on 07/07/2023 at 07:10 am.

Thunderwolf90 · Jul 9, 2023

This whole thread needs to be deleted and and reposted with the correct information.

olddavid · Jul 9, 2023

(quoted from post at 16:59:27 07/09/23) This whole thread needs to be deleted and and reposted with the correct information.

That's the problem no one seems to have the correct information. I have searched pretty thoroughly. If anyone has the correct information please share it. Thanks.

This post was edited by olddavid on 07/11/2023 at 04:37 am.

olddavid · Jul 10, 2023

(quoted from post at 18:47:07 07/09/23)

(quoted from post at 16:59:27 07/09/23) This whole thread needs to be deleted and and reposted with the correct information.

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That's problem no one seems to have the correct information. I have searched pretty thoroughly. If anyone has the correct information please share it. Thanks.

For even more confusion check out the thread "What Oil Filter for TO 20?" Yesterday's tractor sent me the Baldwin P40 (not the P20 as I posted earlier) but Baldwin doesn't list it for the TE-20 or the TO-20. I am beginning to think that the newer design filter will work in either application but there is no real confirmation of that.

This post was edited by olddavid on 07/11/2023 at 04:40 am.

olddavid · Jul 13, 2023

(quoted from post at 14:00:50 09/26/22) Sorry I looked again at the Fram site c-153 is the correct filter. I had looked at the TO30 part.
Tom

I think Tom is right. I looked up the Fram C-153 and it crosses to the original number in the manual. The picture shows at least one rubber gasket.

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olddavid · Jul 24, 2023

Got the Fram C153. It doesn't look much different from the Baldwin P40. The P40 is maybe 3/16 inch larger in diameter. Note the C153 metal reinforcement inside. It also has the rubber seals on both ends.

This post was edited by olddavid on 07/27/2023 at 05:33 am.

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