Clutch Pedal Hits Foot Rest

db4570

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My TO20 is a little difficult to get out of gear, and I figured I needed to adjust the free play of the pedal. But then I realized that when pressed all the way down, the pedal hits the footrest / floorboard /step plate. This could explain why is doesn't seem to disengage the clutch all the way.

Any suggestions? I don't want to bend something and end up damaging it somehow.

Thanks,

David
 
Is your Tractor as per pictures.?

Try adjusting as per pictures.....

Pics are info as per TEA-20.......

Bob...Owner operator Ferguson TEA-20.......
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Thanks for the information. I am not with the tractor right now, and don't remember if that's what mine looks like.

I was getting ready to adjust that free play at the top of the travel, because it "bottoms" out at the top. But then I saw it also bottoms out at the bottom of its travel, possibly preventing it from disengaging all the way. So I am thinking if I create a gap at the top it will only make the problem worse by further limiting the pedal travel.

Does this make sense?

David
 
Free play allows to clutch to fully engage when in operation.
I believe that John(UK)once said the book was wrong and the free play should have been 3/16. So get the free play down to 3/16 and see what
happens. If you wind up putting in a new disc, remember the new disc have more metal in them and will potentially freeze to the flywheel.
You will need to either hold it open with a length of lumber or use a "C" clamp. That is unless you use a Kevlar material clutch disc.
Those do not tolerate grease or oil and do not like slippage. They like to grab and go.
 
Here are some instructions from a TO30 owner's manual. I cannot remember if a TO20 is exactly the same or not. This is very similar to the TEA-20 book John Deere D posted, but I guess the tractors were not quite exactly the same.

As far as "bottoming out" at the top. If you mean it hits where the foot rest is mounted when the clutch is fully released, I believe that to be what you want. What you are looking for (let others correct me if I'm wrong) is that the clutch pedal moves 3/16 of an inch away from where it hits before it encounters any resistance. Push it by hand and you'll know what I mean. If it moves much more than that before you encounter resistance adjust.

To adjust you loosen the pedal so it slops down freely, then you rotate the shaft by hand with a screwdriver through the hole in the shaft, just until you feel resistance. Hold the shaft at that place. Then lift the pedal up to 3/16th from where it hits at the top. Tighten.

When you let go of the screwdriver the pedal will rise up and hit at the top, but when you press the pedal you should get about 3/16th easy movement before you feel any resistance.

This is easiest if you have three hands, but I figured it out so probably others can too.

For the record, when I press the clutch down fully on my TO30 it stops on its own before hitting the footrest. But it's quite close to the foot rest.

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Jeremy in DE said,

"For the record, when I press the clutch down fully on my TO30 it stops on its own before hitting the footrest. But it's quite close to the foot rest."

This is my issue, NOT the play at the top. I will address that later. Right now the clutch won't disengage completely apparently because the clutch pedal is hitting the foot rest at the bottom of its travel, having nothing to do with the play at the top. In fact, if I increase the play at the top it will make my problem worse.
 
Any chance the pedal is bent somehow?

At least on my TO30, before the pedal hits the footrest, the "arm" of the pedal hits the brake linkage shaft and that stops pedal movement.

Of course, in 69 years I guess mine could be slightly bent, too. But I could not adjust mine to hit the footrest if wanted.

But if your pedal is bent that could change the geometry enough that you cannot get enough total movement out of the pedal.

The adjustment at the top is all that has ever been needed on mine since I've owned it. 3/16 of an inch isn't much, but needed to make sure the clutch gets fully released while in regular use.

If bent, the fix is presumably bending it back correctly. But that is not really my field of knowledge.

Beyond that you move into internal problems, but since I haven't opened up that part of my TO30 myself (yet) I'll let that conversation for those who have personal experience.
 
I adjusted my free play one time. I found I had to hold the clutch shaft up while adjusting the pedal height.
Did your shaft fall? A firm shaft is a good thing. A loose shaft cannot get the job done. So if your shaft is sagging a proper adjustment
will not be attained.
 
FYI
As per Ferguson Parts Book......FORM NO. 693 041 M2

Components in Pictures are all the same part #S



Bob..
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Jeremy in DE said (sorry, I can't figure out the automatic quote function):

"Any chance the pedal is bent somehow?

At least on my TO30, before the pedal hits the footrest, the "arm" of the pedal hits the brake linkage shaft and that stops pedal movement.

Of course, in 69 years I guess mine could be slightly bent, too. But I could not adjust mine to hit the footrest if wanted.

But if your pedal is bent that could change the geometry enough that you cannot get enough total movement out of the pedal.

The adjustment at the top is all that has ever been needed on mine since I've owned it. 3/16 of an inch isn't much, but needed to make sure the clutch gets fully released while in regular use.

If bent, the fix is presumably bending it back correctly. But that is not really my field of knowledge.

Beyond that you move into internal problems, but since I haven't opened up that part of my TO30 myself (yet) I'll let that conversation for those who have personal experience."


I'm thinking that's what my issue is. It doesn't look bent, but it may be hard to tell. I will examine it more closely.

I want to be careful to not damage or bust the clutch pedal trying to bend it.

I'm surprised this hasn't happened to anyone else.

David
 

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