Super A Engine Rod Bearing Question

RTR

Well-known Member
Hey guys.....last year we traded for a tractor that had supposedly been "rebuilt". A got bought it on the side of the road to do his garden, the 3rd day of owning it it started smoking severely and brought it to our place and we ended up trading with him and he got a nice Farmall 140.

Now we have decided to diagnose the issue and see what the problem is. The only reason we traded is because the tractor ran good and strong but smoked like a chimney (usually just rings). It also had a quiet driveline. My uncle took the engine apart the other day to get started and wanted me to ask about what he discovered. The rod bearings have significant visual wear on the tops towards the piston. He said that was odd to him and he didn't know why it was that way. He suspects that the pistons were installed incorrectly?? And he mentioned about a number on the piston should face a certain way? Would this have caused that?

Also, note that the cylinders (sleeves) look really great like they might have been replaced. no wear anywhere on them like you would find with rings being worn.
 

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Could be oil, low oil pressure, not the right oil, maybe bent rods, wrong bearings. were the caps on the right rod, were they on the right way.
I don't like what I see on back side of bearing. What ever that is may have distorted the bearing.
 
Normal to wear like that. They may have used the same bearings instead of putting in new ones when it was last worked on. Any shims behind them? That would be a cause too.
 
I would pull the crankshaft and have it measured for wear at your local auto machine shop. Buy the new bearings from them. They won't grind it undersize unless it needs it. It may need polishing. The old sleeves should be measured too. Hal
 
They put the worn inserts on the top when they had it apart. Those are old pistons as the newer ones only have three rings. The crank needs to be ground or the inserts wouldnt be worn like that you can find new rings to replace those.
 
that is normal wear pattern on brgs. with lots of hrs. I would say the old brgs. got reused. the last picture of brgs. has a slight twist but not bad. also check the wristpin bushings, they may be loose also.
the rod#'s go to camshaft side.
take one of those rings off piston and fit it in cyl. top and bottom. check the ring gap in both spots. spec. is .004 for every inch of bore, so you should be around .012 even .016 to account for some wear. the btm. check will give you ring wear as the sleeve don't wear at the btm. it sure looks to me like those rings are too small for the bore. I have saw before where 1/8" too small rings were installed in a 900 case diesel. the guy always had to pull start it and leave it run all day till he was done. I put the correct rings in it and it started good after.
also give those sleeves a proper honing and you should be good to go.
 
The upper bearing half normally wears more because that's where the load as the engine fires and you work the tractor. It should be worn straight across so check the crank journals for taper as well as out of round. The year a bearing is made is stamped near the part number so you have a rough idea if or when it was rebuilt.
 
(quoted from post at 01:37:07 03/31/14) The upper bearing half normally wears more because that's where the load as the engine fires and you work the tractor. It should be worn straight across so check the crank journals for taper as well as out of round. The year a bearing is made is stamped near the part number so you have a rough idea if or when it was rebuilt.

The last picture shows the numbers on the bearings. Is the year located there? Which one is it?
 
(quoted from post at 01:37:07 03/31/14) The upper bearing half normally wears more because that's where the load as the engine fires and you work the tractor. It should be worn straight across so check the crank journals for taper as well as out of round. The year a bearing is made is stamped near the part number so you have a rough idea if or when it was rebuilt.

The last picture shows the numbers on the bearings. Is the year located there? Which one is it?
 
near as I can tell is a federal mogal #. the 58 may be year but not sure.
better check those rings out as I am sure they are the wrong ones... too small.
 
that is false! the lower half of the brg. is the one that wears. have you checked this on engine tear aparts.?
 

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