Super C Hydrolic Lift

Does anyone know what the Max lifting capacity of the C Hydrolics is ? It's a 53.

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(quoted from post at 10:54:17 08/01/12) Does anyone know what the Max lifting capacity of the C Hydrolics is ? It's a 53.

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What are you talking about, the Fast Hitch or Touch Control or a remote cylinder? Max. system pressure is about 1500psi and anything after that depends on cylinder diameter and any built in mechanical leverage.

Please be more specific.

Given a big enough hydraulic cylinder, you could lift the world with a Super C.

Are you talking about:
1. Attached directly to the arms.
2. A 3pt hitch.
3. A fast hitch.
4. Something else???

The rock shafts can push or pull in the area of 500 to 800 pounds. There are (effectively two, so if tied together, or lifting on the same load, it near doubles.
Jim

I don't think you could really lift the world with a Super C, 'cause if you did, where would you park the tractor?

Sorry guess I wasn't clear I was talking about the factory touch controll. Was wanting to jerry up a lift for my trailer plow for transport but was wondering if it could handle the weight.

(quoted from post at 14:40:17 08/01/12) Sorry guess I wasn't clear I was talking about the factory touch controll. Was wanting to jerry up a lift for my trailer plow for transport but was wondering if it could handle the weight.

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There is a 3 point attachment someone makes for the Touch Control, but I hear it will not lift very much. If you were going to make some kind of hoist or platform to lift a pull plow, it will take some engineering to get enough leverage. There is a mounted plow made for a C/SCs that due to the leverage built into the plow mount, it will lift it okay. With the right attachment to the tractor and the proper bell-cranks it might be possible, but remember with levers, to increase force, you will lose distance of travel or the reverse... increase travel and lose force.

The problem you are going to have will not be the capacity of the hydraulics but the weight of the tractor. Most lift boons reach well back from the unit and tend to pick up the front end. You will lift the front end before you max the hydraulics (front rocker arms or rear cylinder). If you make up some lift forks to work in the fast hitch and keep the load close to the tractor it should work for a small trailing plow. You realize a two 14 plow was mounted directly to the fast hitch or axel clamps depending on the model and was carried by the lift with no difficulty . . . but with a light front end!

How do you want to lift this trailer plow?

Do you want to pick the ENTIRE plow completely up off the ground? That doesn't seem particularly practical. Even a 2-bottom plow weighs several hundred pounds, so you'd have to work out the mechanical advantage to where you only have a few inches of lift.

Do you mean in and out of the ground? That's a little more realistic.

Caterpillar used to have cable lift systems for their implements, and there's a lot of information online about them. Youtube videos of the machines in action. Pictures. You'll probably need to set up a reverse block-and-tackle arrangement to get enough throw, but the cable and pullies will be a whole lot less expensive than a full hydraulic setup.

That leads to the full hydraulic setup. Many older plows were retrofitted with a hydraulic lift. Lift conversions were very popular on #8 Little Genius plows. You could get some cues from pictures online and fabricate up a lift conversion, and add a hydraulic remote valve setup to the tractor. It's the most expensive option, but the most practical and flexible, since you can then use the remote setup to lift ANY hydraulic implement.

You will be fine I have a factory FEL on mine and
it will lift a big bucket of dirt and the fast
hitch will pick the rear of the tractor off of the
ground. I just remembered I have a FH disc, I cut
the arms down from a 300 IH to the small point on
the SC and it picks it up fine.

(quoted from post at 22:38:27 08/02/12) You will be fine I have a factory FEL on mine and
it will lift a big bucket of dirt and the fast
hitch will pick the rear of the tractor off of the
ground. I just remembered I have a FH disc, I cut
the arms down from a 300 IH to the small point on
the SC and it picks it up fine.

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Yeah, but [u:cde97b4a4f]he only has Touch Control [/u:cde97b4a4f]and he won't be able to get a pull plow very close to the back of the tractor. That only adds to the perceived weight. Leverage to lift a pull plow off the ground far enough to drive anywhere is going to be tricky at best. If he could get it as close to the rear of the tractor as a mounted plow, it would be easier. Dad had a FEL on a C with no problem, but it's a different game what he's trying to do. If he could add a Fast Hitch or similar valve and a cylinder or two to the hydraulic system, something might be possible, but to lift it using the Touch Control I don't think is likely. Then if you get that figured out, you will need a LOT of weight on the front.