farmall m low gears

pullinferJesus · Feb 23, 2012

I am looking for a set of gears for a low geared
M. The tractor currently has high gears, and I
want to convert it to a low geared m. do you
know anyone who has some and is it an easy
conversion?

CoopertownBob · Feb 23, 2012

(quoted from post at 14:41:01 02/23/12) I am looking for a set of gears for a low geared
M. The tractor currently has high gears, and I
want to convert it to a low geared m. do you
know anyone who has some and is it an easy
conversion?

The swapping part is easy. All you have to do is remove the old and install the new. It's finding a set that is the hard part. Folks that have them are not usually too keen to part with them. I would recommend watching eBay, (I saw a set of them on there just a few weeks ago), and beyond that, you might start looking for a junk tractor with a set in it, like a cotton picker model.

pullinferJesus · Feb 23, 2012

is it just swapping the actual gear or both shafts

Anonymous-0 · Feb 23, 2012

i am not sure how much work you are wanting to do but for the last few days i have been tosing around the idia of adding a TA to my 49 M. if all else fails you may be able to take the bell housing off a SMTA MTA or 400 and swap it for the one on your M. I have a 319 new idea picker and i could use a few lower gears myself. If you could wait a few weeks i could mess around in the shop and let you know what i find

Anonymous-0 · Feb 23, 2012

I know where a cotton picker m sets it was a 49 or a 48 i don't recall but the trans ran in revers i do belive it is in southern illinois by Vandelia, i could pull the parts a ship them for a price

Anonymous-0 · Feb 23, 2012

can this be dune?

sflem849 · Feb 23, 2012

For pulling a transfer sled you usually want faster gears. Just a thought.

Hill-Billy Rock-Star · Feb 23, 2012

Id would think a cotton M would be worth much more complete then as a parts tractor. Won't W-6 gears work? Not sure but I thought that they are lower.

rustcollector · Feb 23, 2012

Fellows,

Cotton picker M will have the high speed gears and uses a reduction in the bull gear to achieve 2.5 mph in low gear for the high drum. I don't think there is any difference in a low drum picker tractor, just runs a little faster ground speed like 2.75 mph.

pullinferJesus · Feb 23, 2012

I just want the gears from an X1A transmission

sflem849 · Feb 23, 2012

(quoted from post at 13:14:07 02/23/12) I just want the gears from an X1A transmission

Actually you want X6 gears. X1A means Gasoline and Low Speed Gears

Wardner · Feb 23, 2012

Put the M out in the fence row and get a SMTA, 400-450. Install 560 gears. If you wanna go nuts, put on 660 planetaries and make sure the TA works.

M low-low first requires new countershaft, new 2nd/3rd contershaaft combo gear, new mainshaft 1st/reverse gear, and new reverse idler combo gear. You can find that kit on the CaseIH parts catalog. You should check that source out to make sure that I am reasonably correct. I am clear that it takes four separate parts to make the changeover. I wouldn't bother. I'd get another, but later, tractor.

sflem849 · Feb 23, 2012

(quoted from post at 16:05:00 02/23/12) Put the M out in the fence row and get a SMTA, 400-450. Install 560 gears. If you wanna go nuts, put on 660 planetaries and make sure the TA works.

M low-low first requires new countershaft, new 2nd/3rd contershaaft combo gear, new mainshaft 1st/reverse gear, and new reverse idler combo gear. You can find that kit on the CaseIH parts catalog. You should check that source out to make sure that I am reasonably correct. I am clear that it takes four separate parts to make the changeover. I wouldn't bother. I'd get another, but later, tractor.

Note all those things make it faster than an M.

IAtractorKid · Feb 23, 2012

There has been an M with low gears for sale on Craigslist for a while. Last posting said if he could not get it sold, he would part it out. I believe it was in Henderson, MN

Wardner · Feb 23, 2012

sflem,

I beg your pardon. Everything that I mentioned will drastically reduce the speed of a SMTA, 400-450. See link for tooth counts.
http://www.ytmag.com/cgi bin/viewit.cgi?bd farmall&th 637618

Wardner · Feb 23, 2012

sflem,

I beg your pardon. Everything that I mentioned will drastically reduce the speed of a SMTA, 400-450. See link for tooth counts.
tooth count

sflem849 · Feb 23, 2012

(quoted from post at 18:08:55 02/23/12) sflem,

I beg your pardon. Everything that I mentioned will drastically reduce the speed of a SMTA, 400-450. See link for tooth counts.
tooth count

Your smarter than me. I thought SMTA/400/450 were all faster than an M? I also thought you would put a W series ring and pinion in a letter series to make it have a faster ground speed. I reread that post...those were what I thought not what is real life. Just wanted to make that clear.

Are some SMTA gears faster than M gears? I know my SMTA goes faster down the road than my MD, but I haven't checked RPMs on either one.

D Slater · Feb 23, 2012

RPM and tire size the same = M and SMTA 5th gear speed the same.

luv2wrench · Feb 24, 2012

Kyle Lieskie in henderson mn

sflem849 · Feb 24, 2012

(quoted from post at 20:40:16 02/23/12) RPM and tire size the same = M and SMTA 5th gear speed the same.

But 3rd and 4th are faster? I would guess the 5th gear speed in my SMTA is more likely not going up to full speed.

dej(Jed) · Feb 24, 2012

(quoted from post at 11:41:01 02/23/12) I am looking for a set of gears for a low geared
M. The tractor currently has high gears, and I
want to convert it to a low geared m. do you
know anyone who has some and is it an easy
conversion?

Contact Kevin at DaytonTractor Parts 814-257-9880. Tell him John told you to call. He will have the gears.

Super-H-Mike · Feb 24, 2012

Yes he is from Henderson , Minnesota. It looked like a decent M and he said it had the low gears. I think his price for the whole tractor was very reasonable, seems to me it was 850.00 ???? Search Minneapolis Craigs List. Probably be easier to buy that whole tractor than to install the gears in yours.

pullinferJesus · Feb 24, 2012

I'm gonna sell this junker and buy a moline

randy hall · Feb 24, 2012

yes 2nd 3rd and 4th are faster than standard straight m gears. 1595 high idle in an m, 1600 in super m. maybe .001mph faster in high gear.

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