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Farmall H seat ID

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Zachary Hoyt

12-10-2010 16:22:51




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I have a pretty rough seat that was on my H when I bought it and I just bought a much nicer seat assembly from a kind fellow in MO. I am wondering which of the seats was original for the tractor and who made the other one, or if they are both IH of different vintages? I like the flip up capability on the new one, I need to get it put on the tractor soon. I also noticed that the new one is a lot wider. Is there any reason to save the old seat in the shape it is or should I scrap it? Thanks very much.
Zach

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rustyfarmall

12-11-2010 05:27:44




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to TODD HECK, 12-10-2010 16:22:51  
The first picture is of an original type for an H or M. The second picture is of a butchered up "Monroe" aftermarket seat, which at some point did become a factory option. If you want a seat that will give a nice, cushy ride, you want the Monroe, but NOT the one in the picture. That one needs to go to the recycler.



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Faster346

12-10-2010 18:48:10




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-10-2010 16:22:51  
Your tractor has a lot of yellow on it. Was it originally an Industrial model??



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D Slater

12-10-2010 17:52:28




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-10-2010 16:22:51  
Top picture is the standard seat for the tractor pictured. Bottom seat is the optional seat for the tractor. Its modified though, shock is missing, spring is wrong and wrong seat pan with part of a 4 bolt mount seat flip bracket welded on.



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D Slater

12-10-2010 23:46:38




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to D Slater, 12-10-2010 17:52:28  
Went to thinking I give a quick and wrong answer. Without knowing what the tractor serial # was I can't say for sure the bottom seat, if complete with the correct parts was a option when the tractor was new. Sometime in 1948 and later yes. As Owen A. pointed out the top shock mount is missing. Cut off, or the top arm is from the earlier monroe type hydraulic seat attachment and butchered up.



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Owen Aaland

12-10-2010 17:47:07




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-10-2010 16:22:51  
The first pictures are of the second style seat that came with the tractors with serial number 15698 and above. The other seat is one made by Monroe. Monroe seats were available after market to fit tractors with S/N 15698 and up. I think at some point in production you order the tractor with the Monroe seat instead of the standard IH seat.

The one pictured appears to have been made to fit some other brand of tractor or possibly just an early style. The spring seems to be a cylindrical coil rather than the cone shape I have always seem on IH tractors. It also looks to be missing the shock absorber. Early style seats had a long shock behind the spring. Later ones have the shock in front. Yours has the shock mounting hole in the front for the lower end of the shock. The picture doesn't have the right view to see if the upper mounting hole is there.

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Zachary Hoyt

12-10-2010 18:18:59




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to Owen Aaland, 12-10-2010 17:47:07  
Thank you, that is good to know. The seat assembly that is now on the tractor has been welded on a lot, so it could be bits of several seats, I suppose. There is not a hole in the pipe where I think the shock would go as far as I can recall. Zach



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wegman in mn

12-10-2010 17:30:30




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-10-2010 16:22:51  
the one on there appears to be original for the year of your tractor. there were several types used. the toolbox style seat you purchased is for a earlier H, but will work fine. especially when the seat currently on your tractor looks cobbled beyond recognition...



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53 Super H

12-10-2010 17:12:58




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-10-2010 16:22:51  
My 53 super H has a flip seat but the spring looks totally different than that one also the seat is different. I know the one on my tractor is original except for the seat itself.



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jonak

12-10-2010 16:58:21




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-10-2010 16:22:51  
Thr first or (old) is the original seat I am sure. It had sort of a tool box built on.



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John M

12-10-2010 16:38:26




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-10-2010 16:22:51  
They both are, although the one with yellow paint looks somewhat aftermarket in a couple of places. That adjustable wrench brings back alot of memories of my Dad. He did the same thing....



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dgasper

12-10-2010 16:28:06




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 12-10-2010 16:22:51  
The old one looks just like the one on the H when my dad bought it new around 1948 or 1950. And it flipped up too.



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dgasper

12-10-2010 16:33:37




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to dgasper, 12-10-2010 16:28:06  
Oh - which one is the "old" one? I assumed it was the first picture but as usual I'm probably wrong.



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Zachary Hoyt

12-10-2010 18:15:26




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 Re: Farmall H seat ID in reply to dgasper, 12-10-2010 16:33:37  
I guess I used the term 'old' rather loosely. The rough looking seat is currently on the tractor and I am going to put the rusty but solid seat on instead one day soon.
Zach



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