1936 Farmall F12

Looking for a appraisel on a 1936 Farmall F12. It is fully restored and has a heilser overdraft transmission do not know anything about the transmission except it works as a high and low. Also have the belt pully to go with it.

Great looking F12. Unfortunately I have no idea what it is worth. I'm just starting to restore an F12. Hope mine looks as good as yours. Mine won't have the spoke wheels on the front and rear, or fenders (Yet). What size tires do you have on yours? I have a pair of 38 wheels and a pair of 40's for the rear. I was planning on using the (10" - 11") X 40's on the rear and 5.5 X 15's on the front. Where are you located? I'm in northern New Jersey.

Cory, F-12 & F-14 don't bring much these days
I don't think your manifold is correct Kerocene
Looks homemade or changed. The front wheels, over drive and fenders are worth more than the tractor. Most running F-12 go for around 1000.00 buck. If you options were off the tractor you could get around 500-600 for overdrive 300-400 for the fenders wheels 100-200. I would be suprized if that tractor would go for much over 1200.00 oldiron29

That is a factory Heisler manifold and pretty scarce. Just thought you needed to know.

Where are you located?Is it for sale?I might be interested.Thanks

The tractor is a all fuel but I dont have the shutters for the radiator.

Iam in Michigan. My tires in back are 15.5 - 38 Iam not sure what the fronts are. Good luck! It took me about a year and has the international model 10 motor.

Iam located in Michigan. Iam looking to get about $4,000. got about $5,000 into it. Everything on the tractor is original it has a international model 10 engine, they came with three different types of engines.

That is a nice looking tractor. I just bought one that the serial number shows to be a '35. The rears on mine are round spoke F&H with a set of F&H weights. A single front. It is not running, but is loose, has compression. The block was repaired on the left side. It was a $250 tractor. I think the block was the price killer on this one.

Stumpy

Restored to one, is a paint bomb job to another, to me it doesnt look restored, plus you appear to have to pull it to start it?? As mentioned, the overdrive and fenders are worth more than the tractor. Id give you 800 for it like it sits, maybe 900 if it will crank start easily.

There is a place in North Dakota called Stamm and they can get you anything original for that.

The rear wheels are not original. They are cut down steels with a rim welded to them. Factory originals were F&H with round spokes. I don't think the manifold is correct for an all fuel. I have an all fuel F12 (converted to an F14) and the original manifold from mine looks nothing like that one. I know mine is original as the tractor has been in the family since the day it was new.

It's a good looking F12 though and I'd really like to have that overdrive and those fenders.

Sure wish I could find some for mine....

(quoted from post at 08:33:32 11/20/10) Restored to one, is a paint bomb job to another, to me it doesnt look restored, plus you appear to have to pull it to start it?? As mentioned, the overdrive and fenders are worth more than the tractor. Id give you 800 for it like it sits, maybe 900 if it will crank start easily.

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I thought the same thing. That "restoration" looks about the same, if not a little worse than my original 46 M was when I got it. At 4,000, you'll be sitting on this for..well..ever. Not trying to be harsh, just being real. Take care.

it usally starts right up but i dont have time to run it like i should it sat in the garage for two years the rear rim were the one that came with the tractor i weld the rim on to the spokes the steel that were on it could not b saved

My "first tractor" was a 1938 F-12 with those handsome factory cast wheels. I just got on it one day when I was about 8 and got an adult to
stand on the drawbar and put his foot over the axle to work the clutch. That must have been in 1939. For a while, I would drive with someone standing on the drawbar, or I would drive in the field when we were picking up windrowed hay with a loader. In about a year, I guess, I was able to slide down enough to work the clutch, and from then on, I was hooked and did just about anything the tractor would do. By the time I was 10, I was plowing, disking, cultivating and mowing with the attached mower. I don't know what the adults were thinking to let a 10-year old runt out in the field alone like this--maybe they weren't thinking! By today's standards, the F-12 seems primitive, especially on rubber, because of the slow and slower ground speeds. The speeds were designed for steel; 4 mph on steel is about the maximum speed that won't shake the tractor to pieces, AND steel wheels rob so much power that the tractor won't pull any kind of serious load at 4 mph anyhow. On rubber, it was another story. The F-12 would pull more than it was advertised for. We pulled a double 12" Little Genius or a 7-foot double disk (which had come with my father's 1929 10-20). In second gear, of course, which was the "design objective," to use modern industrial jargon. This tractor was not terribly comfortable, but then many tractors designed in the early 30's didn't give much thought to driver comfort. The steering wheel was down between your knees and there wasn't a really good place for your feet. Still, we didn't think much about those things back then--they were normal. The hydraulic power lift was a nice feature--it speeded up raising the cultivators, and it spared some of the back muscles. I always regretted that it wasn't designed to lift the mower. The 7-foot mower took
a huge and very awkard push to raise it.
This was a very versatile tractor. The big wheels make it look like it wouldn't be agile, but it was, in fact, fairly short and would turn very tight (automatic wheel brakes were very good). As to quality, I don't think any tractor
was ever made any better. The ONLY problem I can remember in the years we used this tractor (probably 15 before it was replaced by an H) was
a cracked fuel pump diaphragm. They were probably made of natural rubber in those days, and it was not uncommon to have them split on any vehicle. Fairly simple fix. Never did know why IHC went for a downdraft carburetor. Was it really more efficient than an updraft?
You know that the dual front wheels were mounted on a single cast stalk which was not supported by a housing. One day when I was about 11, I took the tractor and manure spreader out in a field on a really cold January morning. I was always hell-for-leather when I was younger (my wife now says I drive like an old lady). I had the throttle wide open, in third gear, and I was probably holding the notched rod back to get "just a little more" out of it. Well, the ground was covered with snow and I did not see a huge hole that must have been caused by a washed-out underdrain. Whump! The tractor dropped in the hole, the front-wheel post snapped and the front of the tractor hit the ground running and kept on going until it stalled the motor. I was lucky I was holding the wheel fairly tight because the whole tractor suddenly slanted down at maybe a 30 degree angle. I went back to the barn and said, in a very quiet voice, "I broke the front wheels off the tractor." My father never said a word, and to this day I don't know why he didn't chew out my narrow backside. The next day, I got back from school and found the tractor had been repaired (IHC dealers always had a good supply of parts, and they weren't too far apart--one of the reasons IHC made so many sales, I expect).
The downside of the slow ground speed was that the tractor would take 15 minutes to take a load from a field a mile away. We had a couple, and I remember buzzing along with a load of hay but feeling like a snail. The 7-mph factory high-gear option would have been very welcome. The normal third wasn't used much in the field, but this economical little tractor got to do a lot of crop hauling and the higher road speed would have been nice.

Thank you for those recollections. It makes things so much more real.
My 'first tractor' was a Ferguson TEA but a few years after yours I guess (early 60's). It was much the same as your experience, perched on the seat and steering with no hope of reaching the clutch or brakes. We started driving perhaps at 5 or 6 years old "TURN THAT WAY" "NOW THIS WAY" "KEEP IT STRAIGHT" while dad fed hay off the trailer. I recall reaching the clutch for the first time - what an achievement!