Wanting very quiet muffler for an H

Dave in CT · Aug 5, 2010

I get comments like 'We heard your tractor.' from too far away. I don't know whether I can do anything about it but I'm appealing here to try. I have a stock IH muffler on my '47 standard gas H. I'm wanting to rig up a system that makes it quieter, if that's possible. Is there a way to make my H quieter that doesn't jeopardize the engine? TIA.

Nebraska Cowman · Aug 5, 2010

Throttle it back? I always thought an H was pretty quiet.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 5, 2010

If appearance doesn't matter, take the stock muffler to an automotive muffler shop and tell them what you want. They can make one up from a blank and weld the right size pipe on the inlet and outlet ends.

rustyfarmall · Aug 5, 2010

If you can find a muffler that is built to the original specs with the smaller diameter outlet, your H will be VERY quiet. I stood right next to an H belted up to a corn sheller at a show. That H was running wide open, and all I could hear was the hum of the engine.

ericlb · Aug 5, 2010

kind of annoying, if your H is running, your working for a living the people who herd it from far away proably dont, and due to bordom have decided to involve themselves in your business, id tell them to turn up the tv or close the window before id change the tractor

mkirsch · Aug 5, 2010

Well, he may be working for a living, but not working the H for a living...

If he lives in on land that's zoned for agriculture, then there isn't a da*n thing they can do about the noise.

On the other hand, if he lives in a residential neighborhood and keeps his H in the garage as a hobby tractor, then local noise laws will apply.

Nothing p*sses me off more than people who can't put up with a little noise for a few minutes here and there. Live and let live da*nit. Somebody's mowing their lawn? Call the cops! Did the next door neighbor fart too loud? Call the cops!

Seth Boyer · Aug 5, 2010

Dave,

You need to get a muffler from Marks Tractors. He has them in either stainless or aluminized. Trust me on this....it will be extremely quiet. I have a stainless on my H and get comments all the time on how quiet and smooth it sounds. He makes them to original IH blueprints so it has the correct baffleing and the correct size outlet, 1 3/4". Stanley makes a muffler with the correct size outlet but it is just one of there standard mufflers modified with that size outlet. It will still have the same rough rumbling sound and may be just a little quieter. You should really look into getting one from Marks though. Call him at 217-694-4735. He doesn't have a website that I know of. He advertises in Red Power all the time.

Harold Hubbard · Aug 5, 2010

Call and tell them "I heard your lawnmower".

"I heard your television."

"I heard your kid's car."

Borrow something like an old big Oliver with a "Screamin' Jimmy" and run it for a day or two. Then ask them which they like better.

Seriously though, a big truck muffler should make a difference. Something for a big V-8 in an older luxury car might be even better. The original muffler is pretty rudimentary, as in almost straight through with perforated pipe and one baffle. Find one with reverse flow and multiple baffles, maybe a little bigger diameter pipe, but not crazy long and heavy. You may not be able to find one without an offset, which will look a little funny, but I guess you want performance over appearance.

CJ_1080 · Aug 5, 2010

Take the muffler off for a week, then put it back on. They will appreciate the quiet. Or just get a bumpersticker that reads "If its to loud, you are to old"! Or tell them to stop eavesdropping in on your work. Thats my suggestions.

Bkpigs · Aug 5, 2010

I can second that. Got one on my 300 and she purrs like a kitten. I like loud motors (to an extent of course) but buying that muffler was one of my better decisions.

erik dekeyser · Aug 5, 2010

Dave if your using a stanley muffler thats the problem. You can look right through them and muffler or not it doesnt make a difference. I buy the mufflers from my case dealer and they have a baffle in them and are a lot better. I dont know why stanley makes them that way. Erik.

The Dukester · Aug 5, 2010

The mufflers from Mark's are replicas of the original type that came on H's from 1949 and later. Earlier H's had several other styles and your '47 came with a style that isn't available anywhere. The earlier styles weren't as quiet as the later styles that Mark sells, most were comparable in noise level to the "generic" muffler IH dealers have to sell for H's, M's and number model 4 cylinder Farmalls. I personally really like the muffler we got from Mark's, it's quiet but sounds really nice when the '51 H we have is plowing or doing other work.

OliverGuy · Aug 5, 2010

I like the ones from Mark"s so much, I put them on the H"s and M"s and super"s. Nice and quiet at low throttle, but sound great when working them.

Farmallhal · Aug 5, 2010

I don't have a Farmall that doesn't have one of Mark's mufflers so I don't know the issues you are having with noise. Besides being the nicest ones available and the most correct in appearance and sound they are being provided to our community by one of the nicest and friendliest part suppliers we have for our old Farmalls. He might be hard to get ahold of at times because he also farms full-time for the most part but it is well worth the effort. You won't be disappointed with Mark's mufflers or the service you will experience.

Goose · Aug 5, 2010

What kind of money are we looking at for one for an H? I'd like to quiet mine down.

I use my H intermittently during the day, and after an impressive speech a hearing specialist made about ten years ago about protecting my hearing while I still have it, I always wear ear plugs on tractors, and while doing anything else noisy, like chain saws, power tools, etc.

It's a PITA to use ear plugs every few minutes around the H. A neighbor borrowed it a few years ago and brought it back with a car muffler that really quieted it down, and didn't look unusual either, but that muffler is long gone and so is the neighbor.

CNKS · Aug 5, 2010

I like Marks mufflers and have two, will purchase more. As to quiet, I am 75% deaf, mostly from putting 5000 hours on my dads H, equipped with the muffler that Mark got permission to copy. Quieter than the other aftermarket ones, including the ones sold by CaseIH, yes. But, I could easily hear that H from 3/4 mile away, 50 years ago before I became deaf. As to noise, tractor noise is ok, neighbors with dirt bikes and ATV's aren't. Perhaps you should try a dirt bike for a while, then your neighbors will like your tractor.

erik dekeyser · Aug 5, 2010

Hal I dont think we can get Marks mufflers in Canada. By the coments on here it sounds like i should be getting some . I dont like a noisy tractor. Is Marks the name of the muffler or the company that sells them? Thanks Erik..

Seth Boyer · Aug 5, 2010

Mark is just the name of the individual that makes the mufflers. From what I understand he farms and has this as somewhat of a side business. Like others have mentioned he is hard to get ahold of at time. Especially during planting and harvesting season. I've tried calling him at times and his answering machine is full and wasn't able to leave a message.
Along with the mufflers he also carries other various reproduction parts. I'm not sure but he may be a dealer through Steiners or some place similar to them. As far as I know you can only reach him by phone. 217-694-4735

Farmallhal · Aug 5, 2010

Erik, His name is Mark Wood and his address is 2636 CR 2300 E, Gkifford, IL 61847 and phone 217-694-4735 as I got them off his business card. He usually has an ad in the Red Power magazine but didn't see one in the last issue. He just calls his company Mark's Tractors Painting and Parts. He has his parts made by others I believe for the most part but is very picky on appearance and quality. I don't know who makes the mufflers for him but they are made for him only as far as I know. His mufflers were available in stainless steel for the larger tractors like H and M and their follow on models which used the same size. He also has mufflers for the smaller tractors but not in stainless at least now unless something has changed since the RPRU in June. He has several different restoration parts and items and anything you get from him I don't think can be obtained anywhere else which would have a better fit and appearance. In short, only Mark sells his mufflers and they even have the IH part no. on them and I don't know why you couldn't order them from Mark in Illinois as I think we have pretty good relations with our northern neighbors. Hope this helps and if you need more info my email is open, Hal.

AL Tractor Pickers · Aug 5, 2010

Say I can get a "Stanley" muffler for a Farmall Super A/100/etc shipped to me for $36. What would the same style cost me shipped for a "Marks Muffler"???

Farmallhal · Aug 5, 2010

You are right Stanley does make mufflers and they are probably about half the price of Marks. I have several like new Stanley's under the work bench I've taken off Farmalls to put one of Marks on and haven't ever considered the cost as excessive or out of line for them. Just one of those things you get what you pay for as they are both mufflers but for sound and appearance Mark's is in another league if that adds any value, Hal.

Farmallhal · Aug 5, 2010

I think the last one I bought was $79 and shipping for the non-stainless steel model. I don't recall what the shipping was but probably something like $10 or so would be my guess, Hal.

Seth Boyer · Aug 5, 2010

Don't quote me on this but I believe Mark's prices were around $80.00? for an aluminized and $155.00 for a stainless. He also has original style clamps in steel and stainless.
Here's a pic of a stainless on my H.

The pipe out of the exhaust manifold I made myself. I cut, thread and polish Sch. 40 stainless myself. I sale it for $55 for a polished or I can also sale it unpolished.

Greenie727 · Aug 5, 2010

Hal, Is the NOS original style muffler for the Farmall H from Carter and Gruenwald the same as Marks original style muffler? The folks at CNG claim their original style H muffler is made from the original IH specs and drawings. I think the steel muffler sells for around $95.00. Just curious if you or anyone else has any experirnce with the CNG original style mufler for the H. Thanks.

erik dekeyser · Aug 6, 2010

Thanks Hal.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 6, 2010

Hi folks, 8 years ago I bought my 1945 H from the man whose farther bought it new. It still has the origanal muffler on it and it is the quietist tractor I have ever driven. On fast tickover you can not here it running when standing 10 yards away. MJ

mkirsch · Aug 6, 2010

Greenie, call C&G and ask for Ken Updike, or go over on the redpower forum and post the question there. Ken's on that board frequently, and can answer your question. He's a parts man at C&G.

Farmallhal · Aug 6, 2010

I don't know anything about the CaseIH mufflers that C&G sells. I think they might be something else that is quite like the originals though since they would have the ownership of the original design. Mark's are made by someone else and I would guess they are somewhat different. Mark's mufflers have the IH part number rolled into them during manufacture but not the IH logo as he would have had to pay a royalty to use it on his products. The C&G ones might have the logo as well if that means anything to you. I have the original IH muffler that was on my Super C (not in the best of shape in finish) and the size and dimenisons on Mark's for my Super C looks like the original. The obvious difference is the outlet pipe is much smaller on his then the typical farm and home ones and the Stanley for sure. Also, the same difference is obvious on those made for the H and M as well. Hope this helps but not a lot of information here that you requested, Hal.

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